- -  Brian Rice wrote
> I'm am truly shocked as to the willingness of some
> members to ascribe evil motives to people.

I believe that recent revelations/implications of
corruption on a local and national level have made
many people aware that they need to be skeptical of
the motivations of any who are in a position of power,
especially when their decisions or actions may lead to
personal enrichment (although I see the specific issue
at hand more of consolidation/maintenance of political
power rather than out and out corruption).

I did not become upset with the park board was not
because they wanted to purchase this building or
because they overrode the mayor's veto. I became upset
because they immediately over rode it without
addressing the points the mayor brought up. I became
upset because I know they heard the requests for
information and involvement yet chose to ignore those
requests until after the override was completed. I
became upset because of the posts which implied that
the veto was made to maintain political power rather
than because it was the best decision.

It felt like there was no interest in considering the
points the mayor brought up and that the quick
decision was made to reduce the potential of public
involvement.

What I want is greater accountability and transparency
from any who make decisions for the public or have
positions of power. I expect policy makers to make
decisions that are well reasoned, consider all facts
available, are in the public interest, and do not
contain the taint of private enrichment and I want to
be able to verify that they are doing this.

- -  Brian Rice wrote
> also bothered by the fact that some members of this
> Forum believe they are entitled to others to take
> their time to respond to their inquires.

While public officials are not required to take the
time to respond to inquiries in THIS forum, they
should feel obligated to listen to the public and
address their concerns in SOME manner. Based on what
I've seen here, if an official decides to place their
response to current issues in the newspaper or in
another location, there are list members who are kind
enough to provide the rest of us the source.

For what it matters, pending further information,
here's where I stand:

* I agree that investing in property ownership is a
good thing, especially when it has rental
opportunities. The first couple of years are always a
bit painful, but provided that the facilities are
worth what is being paid for them, it is likely to
prove a good investment over time.

* I'm still ticked about the cursory dismissal of the
mayor's veto concerns and I think the discussion
around the viability of the investment misses the
points he made which were:

- We need to check if there are better real estate
opportunities and we need to check if we can use this
opportunity to provide multiple community services
within this new facility where ever it may be. It
should be noted that while he wished to keep the
decision regarding the facility's use, he also made
the offer to acquire the property so the opportunity
would not be lost.

- It is important to make sure that the budgeting on
this issue has been done correctly so we don't end up
over extending ourselves.

- There are some additional ways that we may be able
to have the city and park board work together which
makes more efficient use of our resources. Specific
examples were consolidation of police, garbage
hauling, and athletic programs.

None of these points state that having the Park Board
own a building is a bad idea or even that this
particular building should not be purchased. He
specifically acknowledged that it may be appropriate
to move on the acquisition of this building.

I have seen some of the analysis of whether or not the
budget will actually work out, but I have seen little
or no effort made to address the points of his veto.

If you don't recall what they were, it is in the
archives:
http://www.mnforum.org/pipermail/mpls/2002-August/015451.html

I honestly think that all the focus on whether or not
purchasing property is a good idea is a bit of a
logical game since it has little or nothing to do with
why the mayor vetoed the decision.

I do not know if the logical game is being
intentionally played by Mr. Rice and others, but I
hope to see the actual issues of the veto discussed.

Regarding the point made regarding one-issue voting
(or relevantly, why Walt is in serious jeopardy of
losing my vote):

In general, I agree that it is wise to consider the
complete spectrum of what a politician stands for and
achieves, when that one issue is a sense of
responsibility for and accountability to the public
they serve or an ability to work with other bodies of
government in order to achieve the best results, it
weighs very heavily.

- Jason Goray, Sheridan, NE
 

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