In a message dated 11/11/2002 3:22:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, Jim Mork writes:
> Kevin Trainor: > "As for your assertion that Republicans favor > higher residential property taxes, this makes > sense only if you accept as a given that if > commercial property taxes come down then > residential rates have to go up. This isn't even > true in SimCity, much less real life. In point of > fact, since rental properties are considered > commerical under the sick & twisted property tax > system in effect here, any time that commerical > property taces are lowered, the tax on rental > properties drops as well. So you actually get a > twofer: small businesses benefit from a lowered > tax rate and renters also have to pay less." > > Well, a list member CONFESSING to Republicanism. > This implies that there's something wrong with being a Republican that requires absolution, which isn't the case. I have never claimed to be anything but a Republican. I filed for office as a Republican, ran as a Republican, and was defeated as a Republican. Res ipsit loquatur. > Anyway, I'm going on the basis of what always > happens. In the time I've lived here, there have > been Republicans on the city council. In the time > I've lived here there HASN'T been what you claim > is possible. I guess maybe that's why Republican > CM's are an extinct species. People have > learned. Fool me once, your fault etc. > What Republicans? Schulstad? Carlson? Those are the only two CM I can recall in my time here that have been "independent" as opposed to being DFL. Neither was ever in the majority on the council, so how can you possibly say "that's what always happens"? > I don't call it mythology when it is based on > many decades of experience, Kevin. > What decades of experince? I've lived in this city for almost 20 years and have yet to see a Republican mayor or city council. If you're going to talk about Charlie Stenvig, then why don't we go whole hog and drag in the Pillsburys, Washburns and so on back to the 1860s while we're at it? It would be about as relevant. > You can claim > "we have reformed" but I know drunks "reform", > too. So I'm knda skeptical. > If I'd actually been around in this mythical period of Republican dominance here I might be insulted, but since neither I nor any Republican in my senate district was here then, I'll just chalk this up as so much venting on your part. > We're entitled to a tiny bit of hope that folks > like Dean Zimmerman are there as an antidote to > the kind of DFLer which departed. > Yes, we are. > Plus, if city > residents don't take the bad stuff lying down, > some of the DFLers in there may be trainable. > To throw your own words in your face, "...but I know drunks "reform", too. So I'm knda skeptical." > But Republicans? Since when? > Since you need a party to counterbalance the DFL, and the Greens don't have the necessary numbers or structure built up yet. > If DFLers will do > handouts, what could we possibly expect of > Republicans? Hostility to business? Come on! > Hostility to big business, yes. Did you bother reading *any* of my post? > And while I'm on this, what do you think of the > pressure from sports to build facilities? Do you > think we should build for them but NOT for normal > businesspeople? > I'm against both, frankly, and so are a lot of other Minneapolis Republicans. But you wouldn't know that because you don't listen to what we actually say to you or read what we write to you. > If we spend $500 million for the > Twins, how much should we spend for Cargill or > General Mills who have a much better record of > paying benefits by their presence? > Trick question. The correct answer is $0 to all parties concerned. Quit trying to squeeze me into the box in your head, Jim, because I don't fit your little template of what a Republican is supposed to be. Try listening to what I have to say for a change. Kevin Trainor East Phillips _______________________________________ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@;mnforum.org Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
