I keep hearing from people who believe that there is money available in the mitigation funds for the Access Project to replace lost revenue for businesses that will be affected during the construction period. If history is a guide, public works projects NEVER compensate adjacent businesses for lost revenue for a variety of reasons. They didn't do it downtown along 5th St for the rail construction, they didn't do it on east Lake & Hiawatha, they just don't do it (unfair as that may seem).
Without getting into a discussion of fairness, I just want the question answered: Is mitigation money planned (on or off the books) for the area businesses during the couple of years of construction for the Access Project? David Piehl Central --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Send Mpls mailing list submissions to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > visit > http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Mpls digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Citizen awards ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > 2. Re: The Mississippi River in Minneapolis (Lisa > McDonald) > 3. Robert Lilligren for standing up to the > backroom deals on 35W Access (Eva Young) > 4. ability group and zip codes. (Lynnell > Mickelsen) > 5. Holland response re. Cub "SCAM" (kevin reich) > 6. Pawlenty supporting Minneapolis Corporate > Welfare (Dave Piehl) > 7. Changes to I-35W would affect ALL of south > Minneapolis (Dore Mead) > 8. Mpls Wi-Fi Hotspots (Dooley, Bill) > 9. Uptown Apartment Bldgs Sold (City Regulations > Blamed) (Dooley, Bill) > 10. Re: Robert Lilligren for standing up to the > backroom deals on 35W Access (WizardMarks) > 11. "Outa Step";Brauer;Access (Jim Mork) > 12. Re: Property Tax Increases and SnowMN > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > 13. I35-W Environmental Impact Statement (Dave > Piehl) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 11:41:05 EST > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Mpls] Citizen awards > > As a pretty active volunteer, I was impressed by the > quality (and quantity) > of the work that was done by award winners. I want > to thank David Brauer's > for his incredible dedication to making this list > work and for Steven Clift > for letting me sit at his table.{And his good work} > > The idea that this costs too much and has to be > eliminated really concerns me > for several reasons. > The first is that seems so small minded in a penny > wise pound foolish way. > In light of the financial problems of the city it > also seems to be the wrong > strategy, especially with neighborhood group funding > being at risk, this is > an important time to be working on systems that > enhance and reward volunteer > work. > > The second is that there doesn't seem to be a city > driven process that asks > what needs to be done and how do we do it? > The question should be how can we do this with > little or no money? > If the city really valued its citizen's efforts, it > would lay its cards and > numbers on the table- give an itemized budget and > seek assistance from > funding sources. > > The third is look who is out there. We get things > done. Whether it is a > potluck in a church basement, a beanfeed at a park, > or an event aided by > donations at the door, we have the human resources > to thank our fellow > citizens. > > There are other resources as well. I would love to > have the neighborhood > newspapers host an awards forum. > > The fourth thing that bugs me is the way this got > played out at a council > meeting. In a classic case of the pot calling the > kettle black, members of > the city council were berating the financial > management of the Park Board > (was Target one of their Projects?) > Blaming the Park Board for the financial crisis of > the city seems > disingenuous. I don't think this was Councilmember > Zerby's finest hour. > > In context: The award ceremony defunding was used an > attention getting > sacrifice more than a well thought out piece of > financial strategy. > > I will work with my Neighborhood and others to find > a place to thank some of > our outstanding citizens. > > Thanks, > Scott Vreeland > President of the Seward Neighborhood Seward > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > From: "Lisa McDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Dave Stack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "forum issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Mpls] The Mississippi River in > Minneapolis > Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:07:11 -0600 > > > ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C28EEA.42F02100 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Having sat on the Planning Commission and the Zoning > and Planning Committ= > ee while the Upper River Plan was being pursued > folks need to realize tha= > t if you remove barge traffic from the river, the > Corps of Engineers stop= > s dredging the river. If the river is no longer > dredged it will silt in a= > nd will no longer be usable for any recreational use > other than canoeing. > > Lisa McDonald > East Harriet > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dave Stack > Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 10:05 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Mpls] The Mississippi River in Minneapolis > > Last Wednesday evening I attended an interesting > public input meeting hos= > ted > primarily by the Corps of Engineers. There are some > pretty amazing plans > being contemplated for the Mississippi River in > Minneapolis. > > The basic idea is to add rapids and islands to one > side of the river, whi= > le > keeping the 9' barge channel on the other side. The > Locks and dams would > stay in place, and the islands and rapids would be > constructed with place= > d > fill material and rocks. This concept is being > developed independently an= > d > separately from the $15-mil 2000' kayak run idea for > downtown. > > The project would bring the river closer to its > original natural conditio= > n. > Prior to about 150 years ago, the Mississippi in > Minneapolis was a very > unique segment of the river. This was the only > sizable stretch of rapids = > on > the entire run from Lake Itasca to the Gulf of > Mexico. > > The Corps stated at the outset of the meeting that > they had no intentions= > of > reducing or stopping the existing commercial barge > traffic. However, near > the end of the hearing, a few attendees spoke > favorably of studying the > possibility of removing the locks and dams in > Minneapolis. > > The Corps has a website on the concept at : > http://www.mvp.usace.army.mil/environment/default.asp?pageid=3D116 > > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus � Powerful. Affordable. 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