There are two different land planning efforts taking place for the Midtown Greenway's Phase III. Phase III runs from Hiawatha Ave to the Mississippi River. One effort is the Midtown Greenway Zoning Overlay District (ZOD) that primarily impacts the sides of new buildings and building sites visible from the Greenway all the way across Minneapolis, not just along Phase III. The second effort is a more over-arching look at land uses extending a couple blocks north and south of the Greenway to see if it is appropriate to consider changes in how the land used. This latter effort is just for Phase III right now.
The Zoning Overlay District (ZOD) was initiated by the Midtown Greenway Coalition in conjuction with the neighborhoods, and now the City Council has directed staff to develop a draft ZOD for the Greenway. The proposed ZOD was created based on a vision for the Greenway as an inviting public greenspace that is beautiful, accessible, and safe. The proposed Zoning Overlay District does not change the underlying zoning of land and does not seek to move or remove any buildings. The purpose of the ZOD is to ensure that new buildings or building sites visible from the Greenway have a relationship with the Greenway. For example new building walls facing the Greenway would have to treat the Greenway like a public way and have some windows, such as is required for the sides of buildings facing streets. The most recent ZOD draft (October 2002) is available at the Coalition's web site: www.midtowngreenway.org. After additional public involvement, the City's Zoning and Planning Committee will decide if and when to forward the ZOD to the Planning Commission. That will set off a whole new round of legally required public hearing(s) for which all property owners within 300 feet of the ZOD boundaries will be notified. Questions or comments on the ZOD can be directed to me ([EMAIL PROTECTED], 612 278-7171) or Lonnie Nichols at the Minneapolis Planning Department ([EMAIL PROTECTED], 612-673-5468).
The other initiative to look at underlying land uses within a couple blocks of the Greenway along Phase III is a cooperative effort of Seward Redesign, Seward Neighborhood Group, and Longfellow Community Council, funded largely by Hennepin County. The Midtown Greenway Coalition will participate with these community groups to the best of our ability related to Midtown Greenway interface issues and other areas where we are qualified to help. This project is just starting and will likely last through the first half of 2003. Although I am less qualified to explain this land planning effort, it is my understanding that the project will look at market forces and development opportunities. I believe this planning effort will include a high level of community involvement. Questions or comments on this effort can be addressed to Brian Miller at Seward Redesign (612 338-8729, [EMAIL PROTECTED]).
Thank you for sharing your concerns so that we can offer information about various planning efforts surrounding the Midtown Greenway and explain how people can get involved.
Sincerely,
Tim Springer, Director, Midtown Greenway Coalition
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Message: 1
From: Soc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 23:50:23 EST
Subject: Re: [Mpls] Shane Price Issue Platform
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Shane Price is giving qualified support for a stadium deal. What is the=20
Green Party's position on this issue?
I hope that Shane Price reconsiders his position on this issue, or that the=20
Green Party reconsiders its endorsement of Price.
-Doug Mann
In a message dated 12/14/2002 7:30:00 PM Central Standard Time,=20
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[Angela Dawson, on behalf of Price]
Shane will not support a stadium unless it comes with a plan to employ local
people with sustainable, living wage jobs.=A0=20
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[David Brauer]
Are you really saying that is sufficient? Jobs for a stadium deal? I worry
that such a deal could be the modern equivalent of $24 in beads for
Manhattan...that the jobs will be few but the public subsidy could be nine
figures. How can we be sure this deal is not a fig leaf?
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[Price response]
The point behind this position is changing the way that development contract=
s=20
are approved by the city. The contract negotiations usually never consider=20
neighborhood employment or training opportunities . Many times developers=20
will bring workers from other states, while able bodied residents remain=20
untrained and miss opportunities for employment. The neighbors will pay the=20
most when we don't advocate for the broad spectrum of the needs of the=20
community.
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 23:04:58 -0600
From: Many Crows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mpls Issues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Mpls] And there off....sort of.
Well, the race here in the third is really heating up....I saw one
Valdis R. sign and one Trish Shilling sign. And oddly enough no Olin
Moore lawnsigns up yet as far as I can tell.....Meanwhile, I continue to
cultivate University, 2nd street, thirteenth avenue for lawnsigns. Just
when I think that's about it for precinct five I have another taker. I'm
even surprised by the interest.
Shane has precinct gardeners in one, two, three, four, five, seven,
eight, and ten. It appears we are the only campaign that is seriously
knocking every door in every precinct. The vast majority of residents
have an open mind about the green party, wanting to know more....oh my
curiosity. By knocking every door, and speaking with people, I'm seeing
the great variety of political leanings, tonight I met a green who had
only good things to say about Ken Pentel, I met a libertarian that
didn't seem to happy lettin g all the cold air in. I met a couple walking
their dog, they were just talking about the race, when I passed them
some lit. He told me he voted for Dean in the last election, and he
planned on giving Shane a serious look. And just regular folks who are
interested in our democratic processes.....
Hey, can we change the city charter to have the election for this part
of the year? I could get use to this.
Robert Yorga
St. Anthony West
Gardening at Night...........
"All things in the universe move from subtle to the manifest and back
again.
Whether the form is that of a star or a person, the process is the same.
First, the subtle energy exists. Next, it becomes manifest and takes on
life. After a time, the life passes away, but the subtle energy goes on,
either returning to the subtle realm, where it remains, or once again
attaching to manifest things.
The character of your existence is determined by the ene rgies to which
you
connect yourself. If you attach yourself to the gross energies, loving
this
person, hating that clan, rejecting one experience or habitually
indulging
in another, then you will lead a series of heavy, attached lives. This
can
go on for a very long and tedious time.
The way of the integral being is to join to the higher things. By
holding to
that which is refined and subtle, she traverses refined and subtle
realms.
If she enters the world, she does so lightly, without attachment. In
this
way she can go anywhere without leaving the center of the universe."
-from the Hua Hu Ching
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Message: 3
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 00:46:03 EST
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shane Price)
Subject: [Mpls] Ted Mondale did nothin' for North Mpls.Inner City/Catch a bus, please
North Star Rail Line, sans access at Broadway St. and Central NE, DT out to
St. Cloud.
Hwy 81(West Broadway) Express Bus Route, DT out to Maple Grove.
Both diverted away From North Mpls. West Broadway Neighborhoods.
With neither a bang, nor a whimper, all levels of metro governance once again
neglect and ignore the need for job access to the people of North Mpls.
And ignore Modern Urbanist Mantra by not reconnecting, nor invigorating, the
Northwest Quadrant of our city.
I reprint a piece I wrote two years ago about the North Star Rail Lines
disconnect from the needs of the working folks of North Mpls. Now the new
express bus route out Hwy. 81 also misses West Bro in the hood. Some players
name have changed but the situation is more clear; and more dire. With the
re cession over(?), yet a recovery without new employment, people desperately
need access to work opportunities. Public infrastructure investment must
include opportunities for urban poor as well as suburban middle class. For so
many reasons, Please Read and Discuss:
Above and below----Keith Reitman NearNorth
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25. "NEEDED:FULL BROADWAY BUS ROUTE AND NORTH STAR RAIL STATION AT
BROADWAY/CENTRAL", topic by I SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, PENNBRO KEITH, March
06, 2001 10:47 PM CST
"Why have City Council Leaders Joe Biernat and Jackie Cherryhomes deprived
the Northside Community of a new rail station at Broadway and Central Av.?
Lake Street Renewal includes a bus route along all of Lake Street and on into
St. Paul with a grand connector to the new Light Rail Line at Hiawatha Av.
Don't we need the same?
Why did our two civic leaders remain mute w hen a classic BAIT AND SWITCH was
played on the whole Northside? 1.THE BAIT:A rail station at Broadway/Central
was penciled into a plan for the new North Star Rail Line coming down from
Elk River and St. Cloud to DT Mpls. 2.THE SWITCH:Once the Government $$$$$
was in place, the station was moved farther south toward DT to better serve
White collar types AKA-WHITE PEOPLE at the cost of easy access for Northside
commuters AKA-THE REST OF US!
People want jobs to advance themselves. A quick commute by train to jobs up
north of us is ideal for the bottled up work force in Northside
Neighborhoods. A bus line running the full length of West Broadway Av. N and
Broadway St. NE should connect to that rail line and the factory and
warehouse jobs of North East Mpls. It would clearly benefit West Broadway
Restoration.
Jackie and Joe, you pulled the plug on our rail station instead of fighting
for it, who's $$$$$ are you working for now ?"
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 00:06:22 -0600
From: Mark Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Minneapolis Issues Forum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Mpls] 3rd Ward debate
I apologize for not submitting this sooner, but I attended the 3rd ward
debate at Edison high school Wednesday night that was organized by the
Holland Neighborhood Improvement Association Youth Committee and wanted to
share my thoughts.
First off, I'd like to commend the HNIA Youth Committee for doing a such a
great job organizing this event with so little time to prepare. What an
excellent group of young people Holland is lucky to have!
As for the debate, fifteen of the candidates took part, which made for an
unusual event. Due to some issues with the sound system and my own hearing
difficulties, it was hard for me to follow all of the questions and
responses, so I mostly made note of my own impressions.
It was fairly obvious watching the candidates that Shane Price and Valdis
Rozentals have an advantage due to their experience from running in last
year's election. Both showed a good ability to connect with the audience,
which I would have to guess numbered close to 100 or so, but please don't
hold me to that as I sat up front and didn't really have a chance to try and
count.
Also, now that I have seen him in person, I'm better understanding the
support that Don Samuels has garnered. I can't really speak to his
familiarity with all of the issues, but the man definitely has charisma.
The most creative lit award probably would have to go to Margo Ashmore, who
offered a two-page sheet summarizing her goals and experience that opened up
to a window sign. I must admit it looks pretty sl ick.
I do have to say that I'm still struggling to understand what the big deal
with Olin Moore is. Other than apparently having enough insider backing to
nail down the DFL endorsement, nothing really seems to stand out about the
guy. He didn't really appear to connect with the audience, his lit was
poorly-designed and didn't say anything particularly impressive, especially
compared to several of the lesser-known candidates and from what I could
hear, he didn't really have anything new or exciting to offer for solving
the problems Minneapolis and particularly 3rd ward, faces. Even when he was
hand-shaking before and after the debate, he gave off a vibe that felt to me
like he was going through the motions. Maybe he was tired or something, but
he didn't give me an impression that he really wanted to be there.
I'm not sure it's possible to declare a "winner" of a fifteen-person debate,
but I do think Shane, Valdis and Don did t he best jobs at garnering positive
responses from the audience and as far as I could tell, there wasn't any
overwhelming group of supporters present for any candidate, so I do think
the audience responses were sincere. I personally thought Shane did the
best job, but I'm also have to admit I am biased since he's been a friend
from the days when I worked in Hawthorne several years back and I'm a
supporter of his campaign.
I know there were others on this list who were at the debate and I hope
they'll be able to share their thoughts as well.
Mark Snyder
Windom Park
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 22:37:52 -0800 (PST)
From: Jim Mork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Discussion Forum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Mpls] Downtown Shopping
People are right. Government programs did
undermine downtown. For example, all those
government-built, limited-access roads that made
it so much EASIER to get to suburban malls than
to downtown stores.
Then there was the slow starvation of public
transit, the one conveyance that DID feed
downtown retail.
And then all those BILLIONS of dollars fed to
oil-producing regions to seduce or intimidate
countries to provide us with oil at attractive
prices. THAT is what induced shoppers to jump in
their cars and drive 10, 15, 20 miles to a
discount store rather than drive or bus downtown.
There's no doubt about it. Without all this
government "interference", the process of
replacing downtown shopping with shopping in the
suburbs never could have happened. I hope the
retail chains appreciate the extent to which
their success is a product of government choosing
winners and losers in the retail competition.
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Jim Mork----Cooper Neighborhood
"Blessed are the peacemakers for they will
be called children of God"--Matthew 5:9
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 01:37:58 -0600
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: dyna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Mpls] 3rd Ward debate- Sly Di chimes in...
Sorry I had to work and couldn't make the debate. As long as
they let a bunch of folks whose 3rd ward council as pirations are but
fantasies, they probably would have let a real fantasy candidate like
me join in the rhetorical jousting.As for the debate, fifteen of the candidates took part, which made for an
unusual event.
A debate with 15 candidates borders on the ridiculous.It was fairly obvious watching the candidates that Shane Price and Valdis
Rozentals have an advantage due to their experience from running in last
year's election. Both showed a good ability to connect with the audience,
which I would have to guess numbered close to 100 or so, but please don't
hold me to that as I sat up front and didn't really have a chance to try and
count.
One wonders if they have learned from their experience-
especially Valdis, who will be lucky to get a couple hundred votes. I
hope he's at least having fun.Also, now that I have seen him in person, I'm better understanding the
support that Don Samuels has garnered. I can't really speak to his
familiarity with all of the issues, but the man definitely has charisma.
You have a point there- perhaps Don Samuels is avoiding
issues other than crime because he isn't familiar with them. Our City
Council deals with a lot of issues besides crime, and there's no time
for on the job training.The most creative lit award probably would have to go to Margo Ashmore, who
offered a two-page sheet summarizing her goals and experience that opened up
to a window sign. I must admit it looks pretty slick.
Having been in the publishing business, I fully expect Margo
to litter the 3rd ward with her lit. Perhaps after the primary we
could collect it up and return it to her home outside the 3rd.I do have to say that I'm still struggling to understand what the big deal
with Olin Moore is. Other than apparently having enough insider backing to
nail down the DFL endorsement, nothing really seems to stand out about the
guy. He didn't really appear to connect with the audience, his lit was
poorly-designed and didn't say anything particularly impressive, especially
compared to several of the lesser-known candidates and from what I could
hear, he didn't really have anything new or exciting to offer for solving
the problems Minneapolis and particularly 3rd ward, faces. Even when he was
hand-shaking before and after the debate, he gave off a vibe that felt to me
like he was going through the motions. Maybe he was tired or something, but
he didn't give me an impression that he really wanted to be there.
Sorry to disappoint you, but Olin isn't much for the
theatrics. If you want a stirring sermon, hire Shane or Don Price.
Our city council requires a bit more substance, and Olin is the kind
of civil servant that can fill that role.I'm not sure it's possible to declare a "winner" of a fifteen-person debate,
but I do think Shane, Valdis and Don did the best jobs at garnering positive
responses from the audience and as far as I could tell, there wasn't any
overwhelming group of supporters present for any candidate, so I do think
the audience responses were sincere. I personally thought Shane did the
best job, but I'm also have to admit I am biased since he's been a friend>from the days when I worked in Hawthorne several years back and I'm asupporter of his campaign.
I've known Shane for years, but have to admit that his
campaign is still ignoring a lot of issues like crime control. Don
understands crime and livability issues, but doesn't seem to have a
position on much of anything else.I know there were others on this list who were at the debate and I hope
they'll be able to share their thoughts as well.
In balance, Olin Moore is still the best candidate. At the
DFL convention he entered as an underdog- the assumption was that
Kari Dietzic would walk away with the endorsement. Olin won away the
uncommitted delegates with his ability to understand and unite the
3rd's disparite communities. Typical was Olin's response to a
question on the upper river plan. While the other candidates seemed
enamored with the plan but had little ideas on how to implement it,
Olin, drawing on his broad experience in Congressman Sabo's office,
suggested that federal funding might be available. Every other
candidate had missed that possibility... except Olin Moore.
Do you need any further explanation of why a DFL disident
such as myself has been won over by Olin Moore?
from Hawthorne,
Dyna SluyterMark Snyder
Windom Park
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