I had assumed we were talking about racks at local stores for the shopper. I had not envisioned this as the same dialogue as bike racks, lockers and a shower for employees. So sounds like there is two parts to the equation My guess is it will be easier to get bike racks for the customers while harder for the employee needs. Annie Young vacationing in Trempealeau, Wisconsin
Quoting ken bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I am assuming the City Council Zoning and Planning will need to pass an > ordinance directing MCDA to include bike racks as a part of future > developments. I have been more aware of who does have bicycle racks since my > first post about Target not having bicycle racks. Owner operated small > businesses have installed them for their customers, coffee shops, corner > stores, coop grocery stores. These other stores have installed racks because > its good for bossiness and the right thing to do. Kudos to those bossiness > owners that are being good cooperate citizens. > Ken Bradley > Jim MCGUIRE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I agree with Annie on this completely, > but I would add another question. > That would be "how many bike lockers do you plan to install?" > > I would agree that racks are more important than lockers, but lockers are > something else that needs to be considered - especially as a way to > encourage bicycle commuting. It's also true that bike lockers are usually > rented and, thus, at least partly pay for themselves. > > Jim McGuire > Como > > >Seems to me the Mpls Planning Commission could look at incorporating >the > >request for bike racks when projects come before us. After all >the hours > >we spent on Target and/or Block E or on the new Guthrie - >seems the least > > >we can do is say, " and how many bike racks do you >plan to install?" Seems > > >pretty basic to me. Guess I will just start >asking and see where it goes. > > > If we ask it over and over on each >project maybe these developers will > >get to realize it is a normal >addition to a project. > > For the moment, > Annie Young > (today from Trempealeau, Wisconsin) > > > > > > Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > >Bike racks. > > > >The unfortunate reality is that the installation of bicycle racks is at > the > >discretion of the owner and the designer of new projects. I worked on the > >Uptown Transit Station, and we installed bicycle racks because the client, > >Metro Transit, specifically requested them. The city code does not require > >them. It seems to me that if we are required to allot a set number of > >parking spaces for a business, the city could also put a requirement for a > >minimum number of bicycle rack spaces into code as well. Perhaps this is > >something we could bring up with city planning? > > > >Construction budgets are most often tight. Bike racks, particularly some > >of > >the nicer stylized types, can be pricy (we're talking somewhere around > >$1000 > >or more for about 8 or 9 bike slots properly installed on a concrete pad). > > >If the racks are not required or requested by the intended users, it won't > >happen. > > > >Melissa Wyatt > >Uptown > >_______________________________________ > > > >Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn > E-Democracy > >Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 3 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/? page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= > > http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi- bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_smartspamprotection_3mf > > _______________________________________ > > Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy > Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now _______________________________________ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
