I previously had an opinion on street cameras but
chose to not post onlist because the conversation
seemed to move on.

However, with the opportunity returning, I want to
make two points.

First, as was previously mentioned, state law would
have to be changed first to allow cameras to catch
traffic scofflaws.  I personally pleased my State Rep.
(Len Biernat) was not successful in changing state law
on this.

Second, and -in my opinion- more importantly, is
whether we really want these cameras as much as we
think we do.  Yes, they will likely have a chilling
effect on red-light running.  My concern is they will
lead to a slippery slope of more and more cameras on
an already surveillance camera-happy society.

First, it's the camera that catches the red-light
runner.  Then it's the camera that watches for other
crimes.  All of these cameras are argued with good
intentions.  However, what happens when we get to the
point of cameras watching for "inappropriate
behavior", i.e. protest marches that "might get out of
hand and lead to subversive elements taking hold"? 
It's a heck of a lot harder to remove cameras already
placed than prevent them in the first place.

Yes, call me paranoid.  Yet, we can look to many
totalitarian countries that actively employ cameras
for the very purposes I mention.  Look at China.  I
know I'm not interested in living in fear of what
government bureaucrat might be watching me for,
especially when it's expression of thought.

Gary Bowman
Audubon Park

--- "Barbara L. Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Did the good police lieutenant say anything about
> using technology to catch
> traffic scofflaws?
> 
> I love the idea of having a camera take pictures of
> red-light runners and
> sending them the bill + photo in the mail.  Fine
> with me if it gets sent to the
> holder of the vehicle's registration even if they
> aren't driving.  They should
> be held responsible for how their auto is used,
> unless the vehicle is stolen,
> which could be proven by having filed a police
> report prior to the snapshot's
> time.
> 
> Seems to me that I heard one doesn't need to put
> active cameras at every
> interection -- just at some (others have dummy
> cameras), and then move the
> active cameras around a bit.  This way people don't
> know where the active
> cameras really are -- and they flaut the law with
> less than they otherwise
> would.
> 
> Perhaps some foundation could gift the Mpls. Public
> Works Department with a
> starter bunch of cameras -- how about 3M who makes a
> lot of the optical
> technology?  Put them on a few corners and I'm sure
> the city will start
> agitating for some in its regular budget.
> Barbara Nelson
> Burnsville
> Formerly of Seward
> --
> Any idiot can face a crisis --
> it's this day-to-day living that
> wears you out.   -- Anton Chekhov
> 
> 
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