I have just been waiding through the archives, and I couldn't find the post. But, I went through this before debunking the $14,000 myth.
It is a myth BECAUSE folks equate the $14,000 dollars with time spent in instruction. When you focus only on instruction time (and even adding in building costs) you come up with about $2000 dollars spent per pupil on actual instruction time. A woeful pittance.
-Brandon Lacy Campos
-Powderhorn Park
From: "Brown, Terrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Dana Bacon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"Victoria Heller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"Mpls Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [Mpls] Save Our Schools
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 14:23:34 -0600
Try this:
46,037 students (from the MN Dept of CFL)
http://cfl.state.mn.us/datactr/enroll/GED0203.xls
The District's budget for fiscal year 2002 is $664.5 million (from MPS)
http://www.mpls.k12.mn.us/about/report_2001/challenges_progress.shtml
That is $14,434 per student. Then one of the MPS budget presentations ( http://www.mpls.k12.mn.us/news/legislate/Budget%20Presentation%20Slides% 2012-11%20PDF.pdf ) says: "MPS currently spends $700 million to educate nearly 50,000 students each year. Annual spending per student of $13,800 is above other local and national urban areas with similar demographics." It appears that the $10,226 only includes part of the spending, it excludes capital expenditures (i.e. buildings) and debt service. In the past I've seen costs up around $17,000 and think that if I spent the time I could justify any cost in that range with a valid basis. Terrell Brown Loring Park terrell at terrellbrown dot org -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dana Bacon Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 1:14 PM To: Victoria Heller; Mpls Forum Subject: Re: [Mpls] Save Our Schools Visiting http://www.mpls.k12.mn.us/about/report_2001/challenges_progress.shtml, I found that Minneapolis spent $10,226 per pupil in 2000. Did our per-pupil expenditures increase by $6,000 over the past two years? If not, I'd like to know how 7,450 plus 9,000 equals 10,226. <snip> Dana Bacon Page neighborhood --- Victoria Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just a suggestion....... > > Someone might contact the school board in our sister > city Austin, Texas to > find out how they deliver education for $9,000 LESS > per student than Minneapolis. > > Districtwide Per Student Spending: $7,450 > Districtwide Median SAT: 1052 > Average Elementary School Performance: 75% > (% of students who pass standardized performance > tests) > Districtwide Student/Teacher Ratio: 20.8 > > Vicky Heller > Cedar-Riverside and North Oaks TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Send all posts in plain-text format. 2. Cut as much of the post you're responding to as possible. ________________________________ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
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