Judith Borger Yates wrote:

> > Statements posted on the forum are public, the same
> > as if they were said
> > standing on a street corner. Reporting them in the
> > newspaper is no different
> > from reporting what someone said at a public
> > gathering.

I agree in principle with this statement, but there are some practical
aspects that bear noting, and that involves context.  Just so I'm not
misintrepreted, I believe this list is obviously intended as a public forum
open to all to participate (within list rule boundaries) and open to the
press to peruse and use if it deems it appropriate.  As a practicality,
however, this forum does not equate exactly with a public gathering, where
context and credibility can generally be judged by observation.  Thus, for
example, Dee Long made a statement on the list recently that she intended as
tongue in cheek, but it was misinterpreted as otherwise.  This may not have
occurred in a public gathering or meeting.  That's the central limitation of
on-line discussions and e-mail--contextual issues such as sarcasm and other
more subtle communications are much harder to judge without the ability also
to observe the speaker.

The fact that we are having this discussion is an example--Eric feels that
he has to further explain his initial post, and I feel that folks
interpreted my earlier statements to endorse a more restricted view of the
public nature of the list.  I think we both believe that courtesy is the
issue--whether press should at least notify a member that the post may be
used in the newspaper.   No requirement of courtesy, but intuitively it
makes sense to me, and especially so if the context of the written comments
are in any way unclear.

Finally, I went to Ms. Borger Yates's story that initiated this thread,
and--contrary to the impression of simply quoting list members-- she used
the list and its posts within context.  Here's how she set it up:

***A note on Samuels' campaign literature notes that it's "printed by a
minority-owned Third Ward business." That choice sparked a blistering,
several-day debate in an online city forum where several writers complained
that Samuels had not used a union printer.***

What followed were the quotes from Eric and from other unidentified list
members, with the reporter noting that the quotes were written on the list.
The quotes made sense, were given in context, and were not quoted as if Eric
had spoken directly to the reporter.  Seems fair and appropriate to me.  On
the other hand, I think it would be unprofessional (but certainly not
illegal) for a reporter to quote someone from the list without also stating
in the article that it was written and posted on an e-mail list.

Gregory Luce
St. Paul











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