On Sunday, June 29, 2003, at 11:10 AM, Mark Snyder wrote:


Huh? I'm not sure what Keith's political ideology is, but given his frequent
complaints about the DFL machine, I'm pretty sure I know what party he's not
a member of. I think anybody who's paid attention to my postings during
election time knows full well that I'm a Green.

My condolences to you on imminent demise of your Green Party, and I share your grief. The merger of the Farmer Labor and Democratic party was not without some angst either. My grandfather carried a grudge against Humprey for years, but ultimately the happy warrior did the Farmer Laborites proud.


That's a different thread, but I'll just say that the "small is beautiful"
caucus anxiously awaits Dyna's response to Chris Johnson's post on Friday
that, as far as I could tell, pretty much obliterated what little remained
of her positions on the merits of big vs. small.

Small is beautiful, but sometimes bigger is better.


Personally, I'm still waiting for a response to Connie Beckers' excellent
post on Tuesday that offered a far more realistic portrayal of the Northside
than anything Dyna has ever posted in the nearly two years I've been
subscribed to the Issues Forum.

Mark, just because someone does not reply to a post does not mean that you have won the debate. You forget that some of us have lives beyond this Minneapolis Issues list.


Um, since Lowry Ave. has had local bus service for quite some time, I really
don't think an icy hill will be that big of a challenge.

Math, geometry, and physics have seemed to be weak points for the Greens. The buses currently running on this route are single unit types with one of two axles driven with about 60% of the weight on the drive wheels and they get up the hill OK. A BRT route will host articulated buses at the minimum, and these bigger buses still only have one drive axle of their 3 and about 40% of the weight on the drive wheels. Being a bridge surface this chunk of Lowry ices up easily, and ice has a coefficent of friction of from .05 to .15. The grade on this bridge looks like at least 6%- I'll let you do the maths. There is also some question if the articulated buses can handle the combination of a sharp turn and a grade transition to make the turn from Lowry to Washington- articulated buses have limited ability to make these manuevers.


But even with the posts that clarified that BRT would run along both Lowry
and Broadway, I'm still left to wonder why BRT along Lowry is needed at all?
Why can't there be a transit station at, say North Memorial, where the few
folks who might be coming in from Rogers or wherever to go along Lowry could
transfer to the local route service?

Agreed, but "downtown" Robbinsdale where County 81 and the rail line meet is a better location for a station.


I did try doing as someone suggested and looked for plans on the Hennepin
County web site. I found something about a Lowry Corridor plan, but the
links to the actual report details were all dead. Darned if I couldn't find
anything about a Broadway Corridor plan, which lends credence to Keith
Reitman's concerns that while the official line might be "both Broadway and
Lowry are included" it's looking like Broadway is in danger of getting the
shaft yet again.

Agreed- I've looked in vain many a time at the county website trying to find out what's happening with our counties' railroad "empire".


hanging on in Hawthorne,

Dyna Sluyter

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