> Gee, Tamir, I didn;t realize you were inside > my
head and evesdropping
> on my every thought! And when someone disagrees
with you and the
issues in question involves race, is calling your
opponent in debate a
racist the best argument you can make?
TN:
Dyna I'm making this statement based on the statements
you (and some others) have made regarding certain
candidates, and the fact that you (and many others)
have never ONCE been critical of police behavior.
I have personally had the snot kicked out of me while
doing nothing more illegal than waiting to pick up a
customer in my taxicab. I have friends (I'll admit
few) who are cops in other cities, and yet have NEVER
had a positive experience with a Minneapolis cop.
That you have never had a negative experience leads me
to believe that you (and many other paranoid block
club folks) support police brutality and will tolerate
racist (whether right or wrong...and I can't figure
out how it's right) behavior by police as long as it
makes you feel safe
> and that cops have to
> be brutal thugs by nature, or that they are not
> effective. Also, that anyone concerned about police
> brutality supports crime.
Your stereotype, not mine.
TN
You spicifically accused CUAPB of coddling criminals,
those are your words. Are you now retracting them?
If so it's nice to see that you're begining to
understand.
> I just returned from a trip to Tucson Arizona, and I
> read about the Minneapolis incident in the Arizona
> Daily Star. It struck me that in Tuscon, despite
the
> usual obnoxious cop attitude, the police really do
try
> to help everyone, even the "freaks." I think that
> this is because the people who live there don't have
> this fundamental resentment of those who are
> different, either by race or by choice.
I've seen the same courtesy and service from police
in several cities,
including Minneapolis.
TN,
Well, I haven't. and neither have most of the people
I know.
> If you support what happened to Mr. Porter, you
> support police brutality and you do so for racist,
(or
> predjudice) reasons.
We have yet to see proof, or evidence for that
matter, that anything
happened to Mr. Porter.
TN
I'f I'm not mistaken there are medical records, and
the officer accused has pryor misconduct accusations
on has records. Even your favorite guy, Chief Olson,
felt it was serious enough to call the feds in. That
is unprecedented in recent history.
Dyna:
I've met Chief Finney a couple times and he's a
regular guy- quite
friendly and approachable. In contrast to the
Minneapolis incident
where there is not a single eye witness to Mr. Porters
alleged assault,
their are several credible witnesses to the St.Paul
incident.
TN:
Well, at least you're agreeing that cops do mess up.
There are many people who whisper under there breath
that cops should be allowed to do whatever they want.
Dyna:
What "behavior"- a 6 time loser gets busted again
while awaiting
sentencing and dreams up a story that his favorite
body cavity for
stashing crack was invaded by a toilet plunger?
TN:
yeah, but I can read clearly the "so what if it did
happen" attitude in your post. By this logic, why
should we believe rape victims, or children who talk
about being abused. His criminal record is really
irrelevent here. The issue everyone is dancing around
is this question:
Is law enforcement capable of solving the problem of
drug addiction by breaking heads open and throwing
addicted people in overcrowded jails? Or is this
something better done by health care profeesionals and
responsible community members.
If you believe that drugs should be reigned in by law
enforcement and by any means nessecary (including
violent and sometimes deadly force) then my argument
stands. You support police brutality and you do so
for predjudice (or biased)reasons.
> I think it's a horrible irony that the only people
> (besides CUAPB and the traditional activist group
who
> are willing to do anything about it is the
> Ashcroft/Mueller FBI.
Dyna: More conspiracy theories...
TN: no it's the truth. Since when does anyone who
believes in conspiracies believe in the Ashcroft
justice department. This is just a sick and sad
irony, and those of you who quietly support police
brutality (becuase it makes you feel safe) brought us
to this point.
> I think the fact that the MPD can't go for two weeks
> without a brutality allegation, and hasn't done so
in
> years, should have risen enough eyebrows that the
> problem should have been taken care of years ago.
Dyna:
Just about every day someone gets quite justifably
arrested and
screams "police brutality" like a baby deprived of
some treat.
TN:
See above comments, eg, why should we then believe the
rape victim (she's permiscuous,) Why should we
believe the abused child (he has bad behavior) and so
on. These sort of comments make me really angry. I'm
for angrier at these attitudes from residents than I
am at the police. But I suppose I'm "young and
idealistic," and I continualiy am told when I spout
off like this.
Dyna:
standing up in Starbuck,
Dyna Sluyter
TN:
Not living in Minneapolis like the majority of the
cops here, I rest my case, although I will never stop
telling as I see it about the terrible behavior of
Rich Stanek's suburban occupation force known as the
Minneapolis Police Department.
Tamir Nolley (Still in Minneapolis, proud to send my
son to school in Hawthorne)
living in Holland
Ward 3
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