Mark Snyder wrote: > Why is it up to the union members to pay for decisions that they had no say > in?
Actually the unions did get a say in this. Just like all other voters. If Moe had won, taxpayers would likely pay more and transit workers would likely make more. We all got a say; just some of us are no longer heard. > Remember when they said that Minnesotans wouldn't even notice those cuts? > That there wouldn't be any pain? Wrong! Be careful here. Remember this board predicting Minnesota would look like a shoot out at OK Corral when the relaxed conceal carry passed? Well, I haven't seen it yet. (Don't bring up the recent spat of gang shootings -- those are not licensed conceal carry folk). The traffic appears ok this morning.... > "asking taxpayers to dig deeper to subsidize a level of benefits that few > taxpayers enjoy." This is insulting. It is not insulting if it is true. I have mentioned out here many times about the dramatic change in the rental market. Vacancies are up, utilities are up, taxes are up, advertising costs are way up, city services are down, rents are down, etc. The good times for landlords is over. Businesses go through cycles. Just because one was paid well, doesn't mean the curve should continue. > As Wizard Marks and Dyna Sluyter pointed out, driving or fixing a > bus is no frolic through the park. What job is? All good paying jobs I know of either beat up your body or your mind (and sometimes both). > especially given Paul Rohlfing's point about how the reduction in > state funding didn't stop Met Council management from getting healthy > raises. Wonder what their benefits packages look like? Ok, now I agree with you. Channel 9 reported last night that the Met Council Mgmt received average raises of 5.1% last year. A real group of leaders would never take more then the troops. I have heard these lies too many times. When the business goes good: reward the great management. When business goes bad: we need to pay management more as they fight through it. Give me a break. > Peter Bell keeps going on and on about how he meant what he said about > his final offer being his final offer, even thoughhe doesn't have the > guts to stand it up in front of an arbitrator. I will admit to being a dunce about labor negotiations. Can you elaborate (please) on the arbitration process? Is it binding? > I agree with Wizard - this thing smells like an attempt to bust the transit > workers union. I don't see much benefit to break a union and would be surprised if this was a goal. I do believe that money is limited and the administration won't/can't pay more. Regards, Bill Cullen Whittier Landlord. REMINDERS: 1. Think a member has violated the rules? Email the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract ________________________________ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
