Good Afternoon,

I'm glad to see that there are other people who are questioning expansion at the airport. It seems that the mayor is questioning it also. I enjoyed his comments about the humphrey terminal and how putting more airlines there was akin to sticking them at the kiddy table for dinner. My question is what exactly can the city of Minneapolis do in regards to the proposed expasion?

BTW - I don't want to get too off topic but I have to disagree with Gary's fuel claims on the impact they have on air travel. Fuel, depending on the price, account for 15-18% of an airlines expenses. That's half of their labor costs about about the same as a slew of things that can tossed into miscelanous. Fuel prices may have an impact on travel costs. However, it could be offset by cost savings in other aireas (productivity gains; more fuel effecient aircraft and practices, etc). I'm not too concerned about the long term impact of fuel prices. As long as it doesn't happen quickly, there is time to adjust and cope. What I'm concerned is that at the very time the state says it needs to cut LGA money to MPLS, it's willing to put at risk 3/4 of billion dollars to help NES try to preserve it's old school fortress hub.

Allen Graetz
Lowry Hill


Gary Hoover wrote:

I try to follow news related to energy and environmental topics related to 
Minneapolis issues.

I never really liked the old phrase "It's the economy, stupid!"   Remember that one?  However, my 
premise is that it could now well be remade into "It's the energy, stupid!" or "It's the 
environmental economy, stupid!"

Energy and environmental issue relate very directly to the decisions we make 
regarding development of transportation infrastructure.  So, here goes with a 
summary of recent related info on the topic:

http://www.energybulletin.net/4125.html  Good old Forbes is ran a poll called "US: 
Which Airline Will Not Survive?"  (published Jan 21, I believe.)  The issue of 
rising fuel costs is the first mentioned cause, although, of course, other matters figure 
in...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6865852/  MSNBC ran a Forbes update, focusing on 
rising fuel costs as the key cause of the fact that 2,005 airline losses will 
likely be triple earlier estimates.... (as of Jan 25)

http://www.ameinfo.com/news/Detailed/52463.html -- Jim Rogers, a well-respected US investor, recently published "Hot Commodities" -- joining the ranks of serious investors taking "peak oil" into account. Oil prices will trend upward due to shorter supply combined with greater demand....one can infer that jet fuel prices will continue to rise as well....long term.

We cannot assume lower fuel costs will cause air travel to expand.  Fuel costs 
may fluctuate, but will rise long-term.  The airline industry is already in the 
throes of shrinking.  Spending dollars on airport infrastructure expansion is 
like throwing those dollars away, it seems to me.

I hope that we citizens, political leaders, and policy planners take time to become 
informed about the energy and environmental issues which are likely to shape our lives 
for many years to come.  Too often, we are content to hear a phrase like "the 
hydrogen economy" and assume that everything is alright, then.  The reality is 
complex, challenging, and will require a great deal from us as we decide how to spend 
scarce resources to shape our urban infrastructure.

A one-paragraph aside: there are many more complex threads to weave into the 
discussion.  There are local/global environmental impacts of air travel, which 
are now of course economic impacts as well.  There are at least two dimensions 
to the geopolitical implications of our local urban infrastructure planning.  
First, Americans are increasingly identified with a lifestyle of consumption 
which requires resource wars to support it.  Every investment we make either 
reinforces this perception or provides evidence that we Americans are beginning 
to truly act with the next generation and the people we impact all over the 
globe in mind.  The second dimension is this: as we take the lead in developing 
energywise, environmentally sustainable urban infrastructure, we encourage 
like-minded development around the country and around the world.  We all 
benefit from the spread of sustainable infrastructure anywhere it happens.

But more on that later....?  for now, I think I simply want to continue to pose the 
questions:  "Is investing in airport expansion a wise thing, given that the 
energy scenario for the next ten or twenty years will likely cause air travel to 
become more expensive?  Won't the air travel industry almost certainly contract 
rather than expand or remain stable?   Shouldn't we put increasingly scarce dollars 
into local sustainable urban transportation, rather than into the airport?

-- pedaling for peace and justice from Kingfield, for now -- Gary Hoover

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