Being a nonsmoker sensitive to smoke I very much like the smoke free environment that this may not provide - but putting that asside - I like it too.
But I think clarity is needed from what Steve is proposing and what David is assuming. Steve is only proposing that workers are protected here, pointing out they may not have a work option elsewhere. Rightly so, this does not include patrons of such places. Customers have a choice and go to such establishments on their own accord and risk. Liz Greenbaum Longfellow David Shove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I like it. > >If the damage done to the clientele/employees only amounts to $100 a >month, and give the insurance co its usual 20-30% markup, that's only $120 >to $130 per month. Easily made up in alcohol profits - especially if >smoking it supposed to be so GOOD for profits. > >On Sat, 12 Mar 2005, Steve Nelson wrote: >>> "Any employer who wishes to allow his establishment to be a non-smoke >> free environment takes on the liability of his employees health care in >> relation to any health care problems related to or aggravated by tobacco >> smoke. The burden of proof falls upon the owner of the establishment to >> prove that the health problem was NOT caused by exposure at his place of >> business. No employees shall be forced to sign waivers to this >> provision prior to or during employment nor shall any such waivers be >> deemed valid as related to smoking exposure. This burden shall not be >> construed as license to disregard employees right to privacy. >> Reasonable access to medical records and health history shall be >> permitted but shall not rise to the level of harassment as defined by >> law." >> >> Take issue with the wording any way you want but I think the gist of it is >> clear. -- Elizabeth Greenbaum Executive Director ArtiCulture www.articulture.org 612.729.5151 __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract ________________________________ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[email protected] Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
