Could we have Councilmember Lilligren use them to cart his friends home apres les cocktails? Gary Dombouy Whittier -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Lickness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [email protected] Sent: Fri, 27 May 2005 19:21:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Mpls] New Ordinance Will Fine Stores That Let Their Carts Wander
Here is how the grocery cart issue works in a neighborhood like mine. People steal the grocery cart from K-mart. They get stolen because no one monitors the parking area to ensure patrons return them and they are not vigilent about collecting the carts that people leave in the cart stalls when they are finished carrying their goods to their cars. Mainly they are stolen because many people in my neighborhood are too poor to own a car or choose not to own one. They use the carts to carry their groceries and purchased goods from K-Mart home. After that they become laundry carts in some apartment buildings, inner-city moving vans, collection vehicles for people digging in dumpsters, gardening carts or toys for kids to play on. (very dangerous - I always yell at little kids I see playing in grocery carts) They end up in traffic sometimes or some young kid with nothing better to do often dumps them over one of the bridges onto the greenway. They end up in peoples yards or driveways. I used to collect them when I saw them and would call K-Mart to come and retrieve them. You would think they would want them back. I heard somewhere they cost nearly $200. But, I have sat with grocery carts in my yard waiting for K-Mart to pick them up for weeks and after several calls they still don't come. I have had my husband stick them in his van and bring them back. So now, I don't touch the carts because it's a pain to deal with them. It could all be resolved quite easily. K-Mart already has rot iron gates in front of the store. Do not let the carts leave the store and have people drive up to get their stuff. But, they don't want to do that so we are stuck with abandoned grocery carts. At least fining the store where they came from might incent them to actually come and pick the dang things up once in awhile. Barb Lickness, Whittier "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract ________________________________ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[email protected] Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract ________________________________ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[email protected] Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
