Mike Hohmann's simple response: We will never see any significant change in energy consumption patterns, technological efficiencies (i.e. btu's consumed/sq ft/degree day (or cooling dd), and conventional energy infrastructure (i.e. electric production tech.; or mpg for vehicles)-- let alone the introduction of new renewable fuels on any significant scale (and all the techno infrastructure req'd.), without first experiencing vast increases in the costs associated with relying on traditional, non-renewable fuels and conventional technologies. Not until the external costs are internalized and they become totally unbearable for the citizenry; when the industrial economies stagnate and the reasons are clearly evident. That's the reality! Until we see serious, sustained economic dislocations throughout the industrialized economy (domestically and internationally), until we are forced to change, we will not change. We have met the enemy!
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