Tim Salo makes some very good points.

Availability being one of them, I would like to make some points regarding
that.  I've not seen a figure for Minneapolis, but I have seen figures for
North America saying that 68% of the population has Internet service,
whatever that means.  That means, I would assume, that 32% doesn't have
Internet service.

The major question is, would they want it and use it if they had Internet
service.  I would contend that a very large proportion of them would not
want it, for various reasons:

1.  Those who work on computers all day at work who do not want to spend
time with a computer when they get home.
2.  Those with large families who are exhausted between work and family
responsibility
3.  People who have two, three or four jobs, and/or work double shifts
because they need to have them
to survive, or want to have them, to save money for something or pay bills.
4.  People who spend the major part of their free time as care-givers to
family members, friends or with charities.
5.  People who have time consuming hobbies like hunting, fishing, playing or
watching
sports, carpentry, sewing, home improvements, pets, etc.
6.  Serious alcoholics, drug addicts and criminals who spend much of their
time in anti social behavior
7.  People, mostly immigrants, mostly older, who can't read.
8   People who can't afford the WIFI apparatus, the seriously poor and
homeless.
9.  People who are television addicts
10.People who love to read books
11.Elderly and handicapped, who are living longer because of better
medicine, an increasingly larger percentage of the society.  But they are
not necessarily living active lives.
12.People who can't read well or at all because of the lack of a good
education.
13.People who are mentally deficient (IQ below 80 or so)
14.People who can't type well
15.Blind people who have not yet been accommodated by the computer industry.
16.People in religious communities or other institutions who are not allowed
access to computers.

Before Minneapolis decides to spend scads of money to provide universal
Internet Service in the City, including the border areas where residents
probably will be able to get it from adjacent communities, lots of
discussion needs to be had.  We are not a Mountain View or a Sunnyvale.
Right now, I would vote for more Police and Community Service Officers than
I would for municipal broadband.


Ray Marshall
Hiawatha

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Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 23:08:24 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Timothy J. Salo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Mpls] Broadband Availability?

Availability and affordability _are_ different.  As Minneapolis and
Saint Paul consider major investments in public Internet services,
I believe that it is important to understand and agree on what problems
are being solved.  As far as I can tell, there are some for whom the
objective is availability, (perhaps because they don't believe broadband
services are available in low-income areas, as the previous e-mail
seemed to suggest, or perhaps because they want citywide WiFi service,
which isn't currently available), and there are others for whom the
objective is lower price.  It appears to me that there may not be a
consensus on what problem citywide Internet service, wireless or
otherwise, should solve. <snip>
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