EY:
10th Ward Race:

Scott Persons has an effective ad that has non-Minneapolis resident,
Paul 
Skrbec (Stonewall DFL Chair) promoting him.  Ralph Remington has an Ad -

but the ad gives no information beyond his name.

Ralph Remington has made his Stonewall screening answers public here:

http://www.ralphremington.com/STONEWALLquestions.htm

I'd like to challenge Scott Persons to make his Stonewall screening
answers 
public - because many gay voters would just as soon see both
questionairs 
then make their own decisions on who to vote for.

PS: 
First, I would like to point out that I am quoted in Scott's ad as the
Chair of Stonewall DFL. Stonewall DFL is a state-wide organization
chartered under the MN state DFL party. This is a perfectly legitimate
action on Scott's part, but for the record my address was Minneapolis
for a short time in the mid 1990s prior purchasing a home in St. Paul
for 10 years. I now reside in the suburbs *gasp* along with over 40% of
the GLBT community in the state.

With regard to Scott's questionnaire, any person that would like a copy
of any of our endorsed candidate's questionnaires, they just need to
request it from me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will be more than happy
to forward it. Stonewall DFL will not - however post this information in
a public forum. Screening questionnaires are available to the public by
request only.

EY:
What Krause is missing is political gays in MN focus excessively on 
Minneapolis and St Paul - at the expense of working on swing legislative

districts.  Log Cabin Republicans of Minnesota has met with and had a
good 
discussion with Plymouth candidate Judy Johnson.  Johnson will also be 
meeting with the anti-gay groups:  Minnesotans for Marriage (misnamed),
and 
the Minnesota Family Council (also misnamed).  The meeting was an 
introduction meeting - not a screening session.  Three of us went and 
observed the Republican District convention district 43.  Unlike the
58th 
District convention in Minneapolis (and from what I've heard of the 59th

district convention), there was no wingnuttery, no anti-gay lit pieces,
no 
speeches about people marrying animals - or perhaps trees (this was 
congressional candidate Dan Matthias's speech) - just discussion of 
accountable government.  Judy Johnson is President of the League of
Cities 
- and used to live in Minneapolis.  She used to intern for John 
Derus.  Some democrats have encouraged her to join the Democratic Party
- 
and she is staying in the Republican party.  Friends of mine in
Stillwater 
said that Stonewall was not there helping when the notoriously anti-gay 
Michele Bachmann was running in 2000 and 2002.  Stonewall DFL's
assistance 
could have made the difference in those races.

PS:
With respect to your comments about Stillwater and Michelle Bachmann - I
appreciate your passion and fixation on the topic, however 1) this is a
Minneapolis issues list, therefore your commentary on it is not
consistent with the topic of the list and 2) for the record, I was not
on the board of directors in 2000 or 2002. To make an implication that
the actions of past years leadership holds valid today is not an
accurate assessment of the current administration. Out of 13 members of
our board of directors, only 3 have records that go back that far in
history. This is almost entirely fresh blood in the party. Please don't
compare apples with cantaloupes. Additionally, nearly 50% of our caucus
leadership (myself included) have residency outside of the city limits
of Minneapolis as is appropriate and expected for a state-wide caucus.


Paul R. Skrbec
Chair, Stonewall DFL
Inver Grove Heights, MN
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Eva Young
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 7:14 PM
To: Minneapolis Issues Forum
Subject: [Mpls] 6th/8th/10th Ward Races/Response to Mike Krause column
in Lavender/Call paid for by Lilligren Campaign

1.  6th Ward Race
2.  8th Ward Race
3.  10th Ward Race
4.  EM Boatner's column on Gay Youth Programs
5.  My response to Mike Krause's column on local races and need for gays
to 
focus on legislative special elections
6.  Lilligren Campaign Polling Calls to Voters

Lavender Magazine has an article about the 6th Ward Race

http://www.lavendermagazine.com/artman/publish/article_1502.php

Candidate Dean Zimmerman drew a sharp contrast between he and openly Gay

Robert Lilligren in that race:

Zimmermann, in answer to the statement that the choice between him and 
Lilligren will be tough for many GLBT voters, remarks, "Tough? What's
tough 
about it? I have a history of being outspoken on questions of civil
liberties.

"When the issue of equal benefits for spouses/partners came up at the 
Council, I and Council Member Lisa Goodman were the only ones who spoke
up 
about how the gays on our Council were being short-changed."

Zimmermann adds, "Robert just sat there on his hands. I think this shows

the clear difference between Bob and me.

"Whether it is GLBT issues, policy issues, or constituent service, I'm
not 
just a vote; I am an advocate."

Dean Zimmerman's Ad:

Dean on his bicycle in his Green Tutu, standing next to the Fire Chief 
(disclaimer says that photo doesn't imply endorsement).

*************************************************************
8th Ward candidate interviews in Lavender:
http://www.lavendermagazine.com/artman/publish/article_1503.php
All 8th ward candidates support gay marriage.

10th Ward Race:

Scott Persons has an effective ad that has non-Minneapolis resident,
Paul 
Skrbec (Stonewall DFL Chair) promoting him.  Ralph Remington has an Ad -

but the ad gives no information beyond his name.

Ralph Remington has made his Stonewall screening answers public here:

http://www.ralphremington.com/STONEWALLquestions.htm

I'd like to challenge Scott Persons to make his Stonewall screening
answers 
public - because many gay voters would just as soon see both
questionairs 
then make their own decisions on who to vote for.
************************************************************************
**
Lavender:
Managing Editor EM Boatner discusses Gay Youth:

http://www.lavendermagazine.com/artman/publish/article_1528.php

<<Time Magazine in its October 10 issue and our "Northland Notes" column

this issue both address the issue of out gay youngsters, making me aware
of 
a trend I didn't even know existed.

According to John Cloud's feature article in Time, Ritch
Savin-Williams's 
recently published The New Gay Teenager (Harvard University Press,
2005), 
and numerous other sources, I learned that thousands of kids are coming
out 
as young as 13 and 14.

This avalanche of new queer youth has come as a surprise (and shock) not

only to the religious and conservative right, but also to the GLBT 
community itself, which, for the most part, has focused youth-oriented 
efforts on the troubled, the homeless, substance abusers, or hustlers."
>>

Read the whole thing.

Krause analysis of Minneapolis/St Paul Races - especially Minneapolis:

Lavender columnist, Mike Krause discusses the "political maturity" of
the 
GLBT community:

http://www.lavendermagazine.com/artman/publish/article_1506.php

Lisa Vecoli, a GLBT activist who herself ran for a State Senate seat
from 
South Minneapolis in 2000, observes that GLBT political power built up
over 
the last 20 years is being undermined, at least this year, as much by 
political apathy as any other factor.

Vecoli helped engineer the endorsement of the Stonewall DFL Caucus for 
Minneapolis mayoral candidate Peter McLaughlin, but she acknowledges
that 
the GLBT vote in the city seems to be fairly evenly split between 
McLaughlin and incumbent Mayor R.T. Rybak.

Some analysts would argue that having the GLBT vote spread among many 
candidates and campaigns is a sign of a maturing political movement.

It also reflects that support for the civil rights of GLBT residents, at

least within most of the urban area, is a consensus issue not even part
of 
the political debate.

This year, GLBT voters are more likely to decide among the mayoral 
candidates based on their positions on the city- and county-enacted
smoking 
bans as on a candidate's positions on GLBT issues.

EY:  
This shows that in Minneapolis Stonewall DFL's endorsement does not 
translate into GLBT votes.  This was true 4 years ago also.

What Krause is missing is political gays in MN focus excessively on 
Minneapolis and St Paul - at the expense of working on swing legislative

districts.  Log Cabin Republicans of Minnesota has met with and had a
good 
discussion with Plymouth candidate Judy Johnson.  Johnson will also be 
meeting with the anti-gay groups:  Minnesotans for Marriage (misnamed),
and 
the Minnesota Family Council (also misnamed).  The meeting was an 
introduction meeting - not a screening session.  Three of us went and 
observed the Republican District convention district 43.  Unlike the
58th 
District convention in Minneapolis (and from what I've heard of the 59th

district convention), there was no wingnuttery, no anti-gay lit pieces,
no 
speeches about people marrying animals - or perhaps trees (this was 
congressional candidate Dan Matthias's speech) - just discussion of 
accountable government.  Judy Johnson is President of the League of
Cities 
- and used to live in Minneapolis.  She used to intern for John 
Derus.  Some democrats have encouraged her to join the Democratic Party
- 
and she is staying in the Republican party.  Friends of mine in
Stillwater 
said that Stonewall was not there helping when the notoriously anti-gay 
Michele Bachmann was running in 2000 and 2002.  Stonewall DFL's
assistance 
could have made the difference in those races.

Voter Reg Campaign call paid for by Lilligren campaign:

For original post, see Lloydletta's Nooz:
http://lloydletta.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-robert-lilligren-campaign-doin
g.html




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