I have been arguing for years, to totally tone deaf politicians and other light rial supporters, that routing light-rail down University Avenue, at least in Saint Paul, will be a disaster. I have said go to New York, Chicago, San Francisco, D.C. Saint Louis and finally go to Portland, examine their light rail systems and see what does and what doesn't work.Look at systems that were built 20, 30 and 100 years ago and learn from their experience. At no place in New York City, Chicago, San Francisco or Saint Louis, does light rail run on city streets with cars. Only in Portland and Minneapolis does light rail run with cars. Look how slow light rail is from the Dome to First Avenue. Look in Portland, downtown where light rail runs with cars. It's slower than Older cities knew how to build light rail systems and they deliberately separated cars and light rail. In downtown Minneapolis light rail stops for traffic lights for goodness sake! Look at the traffic problems that have developed along the Hiawatha Corridor where cars and light rail are having to compete. It will only be worse on University Avenue. I haven't seen the designs for University Avenue yet, but do they plan to put crossing gates at every block or have the trains stop for traffic lights? When light rail was build in Minneapolis there is a crossing about every 3/4ths of a mile. What is planned in Saint Paul? Let me be very clear, I support light rail in the Central Corridor, I am not an opponent. However it should be along Concordia or St. Anthony Avenues, parallel to I-94, just as the El is in Chicago along the Dan Ryan and Eisenhower or as it is in Portland along I-84. Dann Dobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The University Avenue S.E. routing of LRT is a bad idea because it would increase neighborhood traffic and parking problems and would cause a physical division of the Prospect Park neighborhood. Also, the University Avenue routing might cause the loss of our drugstore, automobile repair facility, and barbershop.
An alternative route that would be two blocks to the north from 27th Avenue S.E. to two blocks inside St. Paul would the only appropriate route other than along I-94. Neal E. Simons Prospect Park --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract ________________________________ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls