Re-hello Sieghard. >> Or maybe give the choise: or use mseconst_xx.pas way or use po way. >> ( But this is more tricky )
>Well, you probabely _have_ to have a basic terminology for ypour >application, disregarding the language. It might be convenient to use > english, but this might not be required. And, of course, these basic > terms need not be kept in a separate definitions file. Of course, with the "po file" way, there is still a "root mseconsts" file with words in English. This "mseconsts_dynpo.pas" is used if no po files are found in /lang and used too when the po file is loaded to check every entry of the po file (compare the "msgid" with the correspondant enum, if not found, then take the value of mseconsts). Fre;D. ________________________________ De : Sieghard via mseide-msegui-talk <[email protected]> Envoyé : lundi 24 janvier 2022 23:23 À : [email protected] <[email protected]> Cc : Sieghard <[email protected]> Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Hello back! Hallo Fred van Stappen, vous ecrit au Mon, 24 Jan 2022 01:23:27 +0000: > Hello Sieghart! Just BTW: there's a "d" at the end. > > A remark: the consts file for your ideU is still somwewhat > > preliminary, Well, that's been quite a bit overoptimistic, as I saw... > Now ideU does not uses the mseconst_xx.pas anymore. ... > So now last release of ideU uses a array of strings that is filled > when a language is selected. For this it uses a 'po' file (from ... > The big advantage is that you may change the po file or add a new one > without the need to recompile the app. That's a big advantage and progress, indeed. > All the adaptations for msegui are here: > https://github.com/fredvs/msegui_dynpo I did download that, but just now, I'm rather busy with other things, so I didn't have time yet to scrutinize this method. I will, though, as soon as I can. This the more as I'm thinking just like you that it's warranted to provide an easy to use way for translating an application. (Although there are some caveats at that, as it's not just that the wording has to be adapted. If done thoroughly, every control element would have to be analyzed and possibly modified to adjust to the item being displayed on it. This might grow into a challenging problem - so it's probabely best to just leave this for the future right now...) > Maybe it could be merged for official mseide-msegui but for that, of > course, all the advices and votes are needed. I vote to include it in any case. The ".po"-system is an established method on Linux now, and as there's quite some "spill over" to Windows, it will be available there in most cases as well. BTW, if the appropriate files for your ideU are available, I will be glad to look over them and make or adapt a german version, as I found quite some, sometimes funny, wording caused by misunderstanding, ambigous translations or just entrenched but different customary use. But it will take some time, because of the rich terminology. I'll give notice if new versions will be available. ... > Or maybe give the choise: or use mseconst_xx.pas way or use po way. > ( But this is more tricky ) Well, you probabely _have_ to have a basic terminology for ypour application, disregarding the language. It might be convenient to use english, but this might not be required. And, of course, these basic terms need not be kept in a separate definitions file. > In my opinion, the mseconst_xx.pas way is too limited and I would > vote for the po way. > > What do you think? I agree. D'accord avec vous. -- (Weitergabe von Adressdaten, Telefonnummern u.ä. ohne Zustimmung nicht gestattet, ebenso Zusendung von Werbung oder ähnlichem) ----------------------------------------------------------- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, S. Schicktanz ----------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk ________________________________ De : Sieghard via mseide-msegui-talk <[email protected]> Envoyé : lundi 24 janvier 2022 23:23 À : [email protected] <[email protected]> Cc : Sieghard <[email protected]> Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Hello back! Hallo Fred van Stappen, vous ecrit au Mon, 24 Jan 2022 01:23:27 +0000: > Hello Sieghart! Just BTW: there's a "d" at the end. > > A remark: the consts file for your ideU is still somwewhat > > preliminary, Well, that's been quite a bit overoptimistic, as I saw... > Now ideU does not uses the mseconst_xx.pas anymore. ... > So now last release of ideU uses a array of strings that is filled > when a language is selected. For this it uses a 'po' file (from ... > The big advantage is that you may change the po file or add a new one > without the need to recompile the app. That's a big advantage and progress, indeed. > All the adaptations for msegui are here: > https://github.com/fredvs/msegui_dynpo I did download that, but just now, I'm rather busy with other things, so I didn't have time yet to scrutinize this method. I will, though, as soon as I can. This the more as I'm thinking just like you that it's warranted to provide an easy to use way for translating an application. (Although there are some caveats at that, as it's not just that the wording has to be adapted. If done thoroughly, every control element would have to be analyzed and possibly modified to adjust to the item being displayed on it. This might grow into a challenging problem - so it's probabely best to just leave this for the future right now...) > Maybe it could be merged for official mseide-msegui but for that, of > course, all the advices and votes are needed. I vote to include it in any case. The ".po"-system is an established method on Linux now, and as there's quite some "spill over" to Windows, it will be available there in most cases as well. BTW, if the appropriate files for your ideU are available, I will be glad to look over them and make or adapt a german version, as I found quite some, sometimes funny, wording caused by misunderstanding, ambigous translations or just entrenched but different customary use. But it will take some time, because of the rich terminology. I'll give notice if new versions will be available. ... > Or maybe give the choise: or use mseconst_xx.pas way or use po way. > ( But this is more tricky ) Well, you probabely _have_ to have a basic terminology for ypour application, disregarding the language. It might be convenient to use english, but this might not be required. And, of course, these basic terms need not be kept in a separate definitions file. > In my opinion, the mseconst_xx.pas way is too limited and I would > vote for the po way. > > What do you think? I agree. D'accord avec vous. -- (Weitergabe von Adressdaten, Telefonnummern u.ä. ohne Zustimmung nicht gestattet, ebenso Zusendung von Werbung oder ähnlichem) ----------------------------------------------------------- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, S. 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