8.1 changes the Search where you can search everything instead of just a single area.
The unfortunate thing is that I think you were in the minority, and Microsoft’s stats showed that which led to getting rid of the Start menu. Most people only use 4-6 apps every day, and those were generally pinned to the Taskbar. I’m one of those. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Daniel Ratliff Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 10:14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription ser vice The difference though is the number of clicks and mouse movements required. I never really used ‘Pin to Start’ in Win7 I just used run or browsed the start menu. The problem I have now is that the few items I did browse for, that ‘browsing’ the start screen experience takes a lot longer. It would be like if I was browsing a menu and all the items are expanded, it takes forever if I don’t try to search for it! Then when I do search, it only shows ‘Apps’ and I have an extra click for ‘Settings’. Overall, it just takes me more time to find and open apps. Daniel Ratliff From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason Sandys Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:58 AM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription ser vice The start menu was *never* a concise list of apps – you just got used to digging through it. Why not pin your apps to the taskbar or simply hit start button and type what you know you want? Or remove all of the unwanted tiles from the start screen? There are many thing you can do but everyone needs to be honest: the start menu was never a small list of apps that was/is quick to navigate – it is just familiar to everyone. J From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] <mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]> On Behalf Of Daniel Ratliff Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 8:40 AM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription ser vice Yeah the additions are all but useless, I do like that you can customize and group the start screen icons a little better. You can also control what moving into the corners does. I still don’t like it as much as a traditional start menu though. I want a nice concise list of all my apps and don’t want to have to search for them. Daniel Ratliff From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:34 AM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription ser vice Have you played with the Start button or the boot to desktop in Windows 8.1 yet? They may not be what you think they are. Both features are still tied heavily to the Metro interface. I believe Microsoft is willing to live with two steps forward and one step back. From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Spinelli, Robert J Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:01 AM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription ser vice Rod how did the dragging us kicking and screaming work out for Windows 8? Not so great, which is why they brought back Start Menu and Boot to desktop in Win 8.1. It shouldn’t be a company’s role (ex: MS) to pull their customers into something kicking and screaming, it’s supposed to be the other way around. Thank you. Robert Spinelli | CTS | GTI | 575 Washington Boulevard, Jersey City, NJ, 07310, United States| T: +1.201.595.6820 | C: +1.917.538.6192 | [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 8:52 PM To: SMS Subject: Re: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription ser vice Two completely different areas, for one reason. Microsoft will drag us kicking and screaming into the future - count on it. Sent from Microsoft Surface Pro From: Michael Mott Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 8:27 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> If we can get MMS back, why cant we swell up TechNet? From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 5:38 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription service No one does. But, what alternative do you have right now? From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Mott Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 5:10 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription service Not really, I don’t want to rebuild labs every 6 months…. From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 5:04 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription service 6 months is a pretty long time. From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason Sandys Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 4:08 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription service I think the intent is for ITPros to use the 180 day evals for their own labs. J From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 3:02 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription service There’s also the virtual labs. You no longer have to maintain special hardware. From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marcum, John Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 3:22 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription service Spinning up an Azure VM does not meet the requirement of MSDN software. I can’t test on my hardware, in my data center, in my environment without MSDN or paying for software. Microsoft is going to push this Azure crap too hard and people are simply going to stop using MS software. People are heavily invested in the Microsoft skillset but other than the bodies running the systems there’s no other real dependency upon Microsoft. We could just as easily run on open source. From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 2:12 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription service Not really, when you think about it. TechNet was used more for downloading software than any of the other benefits. You can spin-up a Windows Azure VM and test the same software now. No reason to have it on-premise for testing. Plus, the other options they are offering as replacements are all free. They are keeping MSDN, though (for a while), so you can subscribe to that if you want to download bits. From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Spinelli, Robert J Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 2:37 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription service This is pretty terrible, TechNet yearly subscription was great. http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-to-shut-down-technet-subscription-service-7000017541/ Thank you. Robert Spinelli | CTS | GTI | 575 Washington Boulevard, Jersey City, NJ, 07310, United States| T: +1.201.595.6820 | C: +1.917.538.6192 | [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> This communication is for informational purposes only. It is not intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. All market prices, data and other information are not warranted as to completeness or accuracy and are subject to change without notice. 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