SCCM uses the WSUS Client for patch install and validation.  You cannot have 
both Microsoft Update and SCCM Patching enabled.  SCCM Shuts off attempting to 
use the Windows Update agent on the system if there is a policy in place either 
from a local policy or from an active Directory policy.

You will see this in the client's SCCM WUAHander.log log file.

When you switch from Microsoft Update to SCCM (WSUS) the windows update catalog 
database has to be re-built because they are from different update sources and 
can corrupt it.
I have seen where the database corrupts by the users manually forcing a windows 
update scan from Microsoft when the SCCM Client is managing it.

You really need to choose 1 method and stay with that method or you're going to 
find yourself chasing down those systems to rebuild the Windows Update database 
all the time.


One last statement on all of that;

*         If you decide to go with Windows Update directly from Microsoft, you 
will no longer have any valid Patching statistics in SCCM for those systems.

*         You have absolutely no control over what patches are sent to those 
systems and applied.

Rick J. Jones
Wireless from AT&T
Domestic Desktop Application Management
D: (425) 288-6240
C: (206) 419-1104

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Miller, Todd
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 11:18 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [mssms] Exclude a group of machines from having updates managed by 
SCCM

I will use client settings applied to collections in 2012, however, I am pretty 
certain multiple client settings is not a feature of SCCM 2007, which is what I 
am using at the moment.

The GPO suggestion led me to the solution I think.  There is a GPO item called 
"Specify Intranet Microsoft update service location"  which I'm pretty sure 
SCCM manipulates to point to the SUP.  If I set a GPO for this item as 
"disabled", it appears to make the client use the Microsoft servers for updates 
and ignore SCCM settings.

Anyway, on testing when I set this value in the GPO and then forced an update, 
the client immediately started downloading updates from Windows Updates (and 
not WSUS.)  What  I am less certain about is whether I have created a dueling 
policies situation where SCCM policies apply every couple of hours and set the 
value back to the SUP and then GPO applies and removes that, or if SCCM will 
see that the value is set in the GPO and will not attempt to override the 
domain provided policy. I've rebooted the test system and also forced Machine 
Policy updates to the SCCM agent and the value seems to be locked to what's in 
the GPO.

The registry value manipulated by the GPO is 
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\AU\UseWUServer
 which is set to 0 to force connection to Windows Update.  It is set to 1 when 
using an internal WSUS\SUP.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rich Coulter
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 12:52 PM
To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [mssms] Exclude a group of machines from having updates managed by 
SCCM

Why not just create an AD security group and collection that queries the AD 
group. Add your Win7x86 clients to the AD group. Use the Exclude Collection 
rules and add it to you Prod security updates collection?

Rich
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 2, 2014, at 11:37 AM, "Miller, Todd" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I have an OU of machines that have the SCCM agent, however for these machines I 
want them to apply updates from Microsoft Windows Updates rather than having 
their updates managed by SCCM.

Is there a way to have a small number of clients ignore any Windows Updates 
settings and just go out to Microsoft for their updates as if they had never 
heard of SCCM and WSUS?

My scenario is this.  We have allowed 10 or so Windows 7 x86 machines onto the 
domain for various reasons, while the other 20,000 systems are all Win7 64bit.  
Rather than check in 32 bit updates every month and all the overhead that 
entails for a fraction of a percent of machines, I would just like to force 
those 10 machines to go out to Microsoft for patches.  I still want the SCCM 
agent to collect HW/SW inventory for those machines though.

I have a GPO set to force the machines to apply updates once a week, but their 
definition of what updates to apply seems to be coming from the MP/WSUS server 
still.  They don't find any updates because I have never checked in/approved 
any 32 bit patches.

Can I "opt-out" a set of machines from the SCCM patching system and allow them 
to go back out to MS Windows Update while keeping the SCCM agent installed?  
Can a GPO override the settings from SCCM?  It seems like it's an all or 
nothing thing.

Currently on SCCM 2007, but am interested if 2012 changes the answer as that is 
only a month or two away.

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