Jason

Why not grow the cache as part of the app push the reduce post install 



> On 23 Sep 2014, at 17:50, Jason Wallace <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Kim
> 
> These are persistent VDIs (again, don't get me started) so no profile
> 
> 
> 
>> On 23 Sep 2014, at 17:27, Kim Oppalfens <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Jason,
>> 
>> Are you using roaming profiles at all?
>> Or are you reinstalling at every logon?
>> 
>> Have a customer with similar setup and would love to compare notes.
>> 
>> Sent from my Windows Phone
>> From: Jason Wallace
>> Sent: ‎23/‎09/‎2014 18:03
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [mssms] App Model - avoid client cache
>> 
>> Hi Paul
>> 
>> One hefty PVS image is what they do have and that in itself present some 
>> problems.
>> 
>> The whole app is streamed into the cache on startup however to enable all 
>> that content to be deduped at the NetApp and to save the iOPs associated 
>> with dragging that content down to the clients.
>> 
>> I agree that we absolutely need to have something to allow icons to appear 
>> (at the least) on startup.
>> 
>> Daniel's right about a DCR on this but I think that would be a pain to 
>> programme, quite simply because the content has to be reconstructed 
>> somewhere from the Content Library - we can do that on a share at the DP or 
>> in the client cache
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 23 Sep 2014, at 15:46, Paul Winstanley <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Jason - Are these persistent VDI's as this would be a real mess in a 
>>> non-persistent environment? 
>>> On the App-V side, personally - until ConfigMgr sorts out publishing at 
>>> startup rather than on policy run - I would cache all App-V FB0 to the 
>>> master image rather than the whole app and then stream from DP with SCS 
>>> switched on. Otherwise you are going to have one hefty gold image.
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Daniel Ratliff <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Jason you are right, it doesn’t look like you can run non-App-V apps from 
>>>> the DP. They must be downloaded and ran locally. Sounds like another DCR.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Daniel Ratliff
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> From: [email protected] 
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marcum, John
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 10:33 AM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: RE: [mssms] App Model - avoid client cache
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> That's just yucky! LOL…. Why aren't they deploying the App-V apps to the 
>>>> users? Better yet, why aren't they deploying all apps to the users?
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Or deploy the app-v apps to XenApp servers and let CM deploy the XA apps 
>>>> to the users.
>>>> 
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>>>> From: [email protected] 
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason Wallace
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 9:29 AM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: RE: [mssms] App Model - avoid client cache
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, but that is an App-V application.  Bizarrely they have decided NOT to 
>>>> stream App-V apps from DP but to stream these apps into the image which 
>>>> they PVS.  This means that on first run all systems see all apps but then 
>>>> CM comes along and uninstalls the ones not valid for the system.
>>>>  
>>>> The apps which they are publishing to Software Center are .MSI and .EXE 
>>>> based thick client installers for applications which cannot be App-V'd
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: RE: [mssms] App Model - avoid client cache
>>>> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 14:20:57 +0000
>>>> 
>>>> To stream from DP the settings are in the Deployment properties. See an 
>>>> example below.
>>>> 
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>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Daniel Ratliff
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> From: Daniel Ratliff 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 10:18 AM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: RE: [mssms] App Model - avoid client cache
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Why aren’t you running from the DP? Are you just asking how you tell it to?
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Daniel Ratliff
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> From: [email protected] 
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason Wallace
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 10:12 AM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: [mssms] App Model - avoid client cache
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Hi there folks
>>>>  
>>>> I have an issue with a customer who is implementing a VDI solution based 
>>>> around CM12R2CU1 (at the moment).
>>>>  
>>>> They have a lot of applications which are available to the computer and 
>>>> appear in Software Center for the user to choose to install.  This 
>>>> therefore is APPMODEL data.
>>>>  
>>>> When we select an application it is downloaded into client cache of course 
>>>> and installed from there.
>>>>  
>>>> In the instance of this customer some users have more than 5GB of content 
>>>> which they want to deploy.  When they do of course they fill the client 
>>>> cache and that content remains for 24 hours.
>>>>  
>>>> Now one solution would be for us to dynamically increase the client cache 
>>>> size when we deploy an application and then shrink (and clear) the cache 
>>>> but they don't want to do this (storage is expensive).  Ideally I'd like 
>>>> to have something like run from DP but for App Model.
>>>>  
>>>> Suggestions appreciated
>>>>  
>>>> Jason
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
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