AppSense plain sucks, it's a management nightmare. We bought it and never went into production with it. Wasted a boatload of cash on it.
I've been testing UE-V and it works Okay. Seems to put some strain on the workstations though. PVD's were okay too but there's some bug in that. We ended up going to persistent machines. Still going to have to do something for profiles though for our XA servers. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kim Oppalfens Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 12:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [mssms] App Model - avoid client cache We are "playing around" now with non-persistent vdi and roaming profiles. Roaming profiles are just quick to test maintaining app installs in non-persistent vm's. Ultimately we'll go for something like ue-v. Customer has appsense now, and no particular interest in keeping that as part of the tobe situation. Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Marcum, John<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: 23/09/2014 18:30 To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] App Model - avoid client cache 1. Citrix recommends against roaming profiles. 2. You'd only have to reinstall if you are using non-persistent VDI and you aren't using PVD's. 3. By roaming profiles did you really mean profile management or personalization? (RES, Citrix Profile Management, UE-V or dare I say the dirty word "AppSense") From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kim Oppalfens Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 11:25 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] App Model - avoid client cache Jason, Are you using roaming profiles at all? Or are you reinstalling at every logon? Have a customer with similar setup and would love to compare notes. Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Jason Wallace<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: 23/09/2014 18:03 To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [mssms] App Model - avoid client cache Hi Paul One hefty PVS image is what they do have and that in itself present some problems. The whole app is streamed into the cache on startup however to enable all that content to be deduped at the NetApp and to save the iOPs associated with dragging that content down to the clients. I agree that we absolutely need to have something to allow icons to appear (at the least) on startup. Daniel's right about a DCR on this but I think that would be a pain to programme, quite simply because the content has to be reconstructed somewhere from the Content Library - we can do that on a share at the DP or in the client cache On 23 Sep 2014, at 15:46, Paul Winstanley <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Jason - Are these persistent VDI's as this would be a real mess in a non-persistent environment? On the App-V side, personally - until ConfigMgr sorts out publishing at startup rather than on policy run - I would cache all App-V FB0 to the master image rather than the whole app and then stream from DP with SCS switched on. Otherwise you are going to have one hefty gold image. On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Daniel Ratliff <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Jason you are right, it doesn’t look like you can run non-App-V apps from the DP. They must be downloaded and ran locally. Sounds like another DCR. Daniel Ratliff From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Marcum, John Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 10:33 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] App Model - avoid client cache That's just yucky! LOL…. Why aren't they deploying the App-V apps to the users? Better yet, why aren't they deploying all apps to the users? Or deploy the app-v apps to XenApp servers and let CM deploy the XA apps to the users. From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason Wallace Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 9:29 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] App Model - avoid client cache Yes, but that is an App-V application. Bizarrely they have decided NOT to stream App-V apps from DP but to stream these apps into the image which they PVS. This means that on first run all systems see all apps but then CM comes along and uninstalls the ones not valid for the system. The apps which they are publishing to Software Center are .MSI and .EXE based thick client installers for applications which cannot be App-V'd ________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] App Model - avoid client cache Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 14:20:57 +0000 To stream from DP the settings are in the Deployment properties. See an example below. <image001.png> Daniel Ratliff From: Daniel Ratliff Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 10:18 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] App Model - avoid client cache Why aren’t you running from the DP? Are you just asking how you tell it to? Daniel Ratliff From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason Wallace Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 10:12 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [mssms] App Model - avoid client cache Hi there folks I have an issue with a customer who is implementing a VDI solution based around CM12R2CU1 (at the moment). They have a lot of applications which are available to the computer and appear in Software Center for the user to choose to install. This therefore is APPMODEL data. When we select an application it is downloaded into client cache of course and installed from there. In the instance of this customer some users have more than 5GB of content which they want to deploy. When they do of course they fill the client cache and that content remains for 24 hours. Now one solution would be for us to dynamically increase the client cache size when we deploy an application and then shrink (and clear) the cache but they don't want to do this (storage is expensive). Ideally I'd like to have something like run from DP but for App Model. Suggestions appreciated Jason The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain CONFIDENTIAL material. If you receive this material/information in error, please contact the sender and delete or destroy the material/information. ________________________________ Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail is from a law firm and may be protected by the attorney-client or work product privileges. 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