Doesn't Intune integrate with SCCM 2012? Wouldn't the SCCM 2012 client then use Intune when off site?
Nick Gailfus Computer Technician p. 602.953.2933 f. 602.953.0831 [email protected] <[email protected]>| www.leonagroup.com On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Daniel Ratliff <[email protected]> wrote: > Cant have both clients on same device. > > > > *Daniel Ratliff* > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Lindenfeld, Ivan > *Sent:* Thursday, March 5, 2015 12:07 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? > > > > Infrequent connection to corporate network? SCCM covers it while on the > network, Intune covers it while off? > > > > Ivan Lindenfeld > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Marcum, John > *Sent:* Thursday, March 5, 2015 11:20 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? > > > > Why would you do that? Why would you put the intune client on a Windows > device if you have ConfigMgr? Makes no sense to me. > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Anoop C Nair > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 04, 2015 7:10 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? > > > > The *real* "single pane of glass" is still not there in ConfigMgr + > Intune hybrid environment, Isn't it? For example, When we install FULL > Intune client on a workstation, then we can't manage the device from CM12 > console as that device record won't be visible from CM12 console. To manage > those type of workstations you may need to open up Intune console. Probably > this may also change in the future :) > > > Best Regards, > > *Anoop C Nair* > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 9:07 PM, Michael Niehaus < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Not really, you just need to use set logic: > > > > · A group of PCs, by the nature of how they are used, will be > managed using on-premises infrastructure. > > · Another group of PCs and other devices, because they are used > differently, will be managed from the cloud. > > · You have two management options, but that shouldn’t mean double > the work – administer them both at once. > > > > That’s really the “single pane of glass” vision that the ConfigMgr/Intune > team has been touting for the past few years. And interestingly enough, > it’s exactly the same vision being stated by analysts as the goal for most > customers: They don’t want multiple management solutions, as it takes more > effort to operate that. Instead, they see a natural convergence between > on-prem and cloud-based management, across the industry. > > > > Thanks, > > -Michael > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Rod Trent > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 4, 2015 4:27 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? > > > > Semi-circular logic: > > > > · Rich PC management will continue to be an on-premises workload. > > · Enterprise Mobility Management will be delivered via cloud > services. > > · IT wants a single tool for managing PCs and mobile devices. > > · Organizations will begin to shift to MDM-like management for > some their PCs. > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Phil Wilcock > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 4, 2015 9:58 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? > > > > Timely article from Mr Anderson today on this very topic - > http://blogs.technet.com/b/in_the_cloud/archive/2015/03/04/what-we-re-doing-amp-why-we-ll-do-it-our-enterprise-mobility-world-views.aspx > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *[email protected] > *Sent:* 03 March 2015 21:20 > *To:* SMS > *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? > > > > Well, if you want to get technical, since licensing is now per user > instead of per device… > > > > Modern User Management? [image: 😊] > > > > *From:* Marcum, John <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 3, 2015 3:52 PM > *To:* SMS <[email protected]> > > > > I like "Modern" devices better than "Mobile" and that's what I am hearing > when talking to product team folks. > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Rod Trent > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 1:38 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? > > > > And, really it’s not about devices – or at least what we think computing > devices are today. I see Intune taking on additional management > capabilities in the near future to manage even IoT and wearables. At least, > it has to. > > > > It should actually be “mobility management” > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Michael Niehaus > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 3, 2015 2:22 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? > > > > Yes, “mobile device management” isn’t just for mobile devices J > > > > Windows Intune has its own agent, or with Windows 8.1 and above it can use > OMA-DM protocols that are built into the OS. With Windows 8.1, those are > fairly limited, so the focus is more on BYOD scenarios (for desktops) and > lightweight management (phones and desktops). For Windows 10, there will > be more capabilities added (explored in detail at Ignite). > > > > Of course Intune also does iOS, Android, etc. > > > > Thanks, > > -Michael > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 3, 2015 8:14 PM > *To:* '[email protected]' > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? > > > > Looks like I really need to read up on Intune. I thought it was just for > mobile devices, but it seems I’m completely wrong on that. > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *[email protected] > *Sent:* Friday, February 27, 2015 4:40 PM > *To:* SMS > *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? > > > > I was there for the actual keynote. There's a bit of semantics going on. > Workloads for the foreseeable future can mean a number of things, and > there's been a LOT of activity in the background since that keynote. > > > > The core message is that Microsoft intends to support customers - not > products. Microsoft understands that customers are inherently slow to adopt > new products that require massive migrations. There are customers still > running CM 2007, even SMS 2003. So, when it's said that CM will be > supported for the foreseeable future, it means as long as customers are > still running it. > > > > Focus is on Intune right now, and has been for a long while. CM may see > some improvements, but only in areas where it makes sense to the Microsoft > vision. Don't expect major new features. For example, one of the bigger > features we'll see in the Fall for CM 2012 R2 is better integration with > Intune. App and OS delivery are the only real pieces of CM that can't be > Cloud-based right now, but that change is coming. Microsoft will attempt to > make Windows 10 the compelling reason for customers to move to Intune with > changes in how apps and the OS delivers. > > > > > > > > *From:* 'Bill Bernat' <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Friday, February 27, 2015 2:09 PM > *To:* SMS <[email protected]> > > > > It’s a fascinating topic. Here’s a recent take from Brad Anderson: > http://redmondmag.com/articles/2015/02/23/system-center-configuration-manager-future.aspx > . > > > > -billb > > > > *From: *Andreas Hammarskjöld <[email protected]> > *Reply-To: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]> > *Date: *Friday, February 27, 2015 at 10:58 AM > *To: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]> > *Subject: *RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? > > > > But also remember what wise men say: “One does not just migrate 20 years > of code in to Mordor… sorry the Cloud” > > > > MS focuses primarily on the Cloud right now, but we all know were few > people actually use it. Does Intune even cover 1% of the ConfigMgr install > base? And I am not talking purchased or licensed, I am talking about > deployed. > > > > So MS faces the options to put in a few years to make Intune better with > zero new stuff in ConfigMgr, which will make existing customer base angry, > making future sells harder. Alternative is to do a split where some like > 70% goes towards the Cloud and 30% to keep customer happy enough. But that > won’t make the “market” people as they want a good story and strong figures > on cloud and market share in that. The lack of ConfigMgr sessions at these > events since there are very few new features, i.e. not so much dev time for > our friend ConfigMgr. > > > > In my previous role at my old company I was in exactly the same spot as > MS. I had to develop new things for the cloud, and still maintain good ol’ > “slow moving software”. It’s not an easy game. MS will make most mistake’s > again with Intune as they did with ConfigMgr, because people are like that. > Writing new code generates bugs, period, since developers are human. So it > will be slower than they think, and when no new stuff comes to existing > platform owners they will start not to renew Enterprise deals since there > is a lack of roadmap, people will raise hell internally. And then God knows > what will happen. > > > > So basically, Microsoft has to develop a kick-ass Intune with the same > feature set that it took them 20 years to put into ConfigMgr + more. And > this they have to do in a very short timeframe before losing new or > existing customers. I think I recall that ConfigMgr 2012 was 9 million > lines of code and the test tools had 4.5 million, so to finish in 5 years > time they have to check in more than 12000 perfect lines of code each day. > You do the math! J > > > > Anyhow, my 2 cents after having 2Pints! So conditions do apply, now off to > pester mr Arwidmark and Mikael Nyström on Twitter! > > > > //A > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Ed Aldrich > *Sent:* den 27 februari 2015 19:28 > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? > > > > “I'm trying to interpret these marketing and materials changes to > understand what MS will be pushing in the years to come. “ > > > > As far as us in the CfgMgr world are concerned, rest assured that the > future holds cloud enabled management... Current initiatives around Intune > show that clearly... while it still has a way to go before its prime-time > ready, it is the future.... toss in a more homogenous AppStore story across > platforms and their respective devices, and the picture begins to become > clear. > > > > Jeff Gilbert’s recently published (co-authored) book Enterprise Mobility > Suite Managing BYOD and Company-Owned Devices > <http://www.amazon.com/Enterprise-Mobility-Managing-Company-Owned-Devices/dp/0735698406/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1425061383&sr=1-1&keywords=jeff+gilbert> > is a great place to start learning, along with any number of Microsoft > blogs that focus on Intune. > > > > *Ed Aldrich* > > Mobile: (401) 924-2293 > > [email protected]| www.1e.com > > Ent Cli Mgmt (2003-2014) > > > > *From:*[email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Stephen Owen > *Sent:* Friday, February 27, 2015 10:34 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? > > > > Guys, let's not bash these conference bags. Some of us look forward to > them very much (I don't have one yet :( )! > > I've also got to say based on what I've seen from the Channel 9 / TechEd > videos. There was some seriously great and juicy stuff from previous > TechEd's, some of which helped shape my SCCM knowledge (Niehaus, your's > from TechEd were AWESOME!). > > > > You can really see a decline in that content volume recently. I think > everyone has said it already, there is a lot that MS is transitioning too. > I'm trying to interpret these marketing and materials changes to understand > what MS will be pushing in the years to come. > > > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 6:30 PM, Michael Niehaus < > [email protected]> wrote: > > My personal opinion, not Microsoft’s J > > > > I agree very much with the highlighted parts below. But just because it’s > a forward-looking event focused on roadmap and where everything is going, > that doesn’t mean that there isn’t a community aspect. Just expect the > community aspect to be more like The Krewe (probably 90% social/networking) > than like MyITForum (probably 70% technical conversation/how-to, 30% > social/networking). > > > > Where I tend to disagree with people is in regards to the bashing of > Ignite/TechEd/other large Microsoft events. Ignite has its place, and for > those that focus on what’s next, it should be considered essential – at > least acknowledge that. And that’s not for everyone. For those that live > in the here-and-now, well, then maybe you should consider events that focus > more on the here-and-now: training on current versions, troubleshooting > and notes-from-the-field with live releases, compare notes with like-minded > (and similarly challenged) individuals, etc. (For those of you running > those events, please focus on the position: Market your events based on > their strengths, not by comparing yourself to Ignite.) > > > > I’ve been campaigning for more ConfigMgr sessions too, but even if these > come I wouldn’t expect them to spend much time on existing releases, except > to talk about how they are changing, how you can upgrade, new > features/roadmap, etc. If you really want to know how to better use the > ConfigMgr app model that hasn’t changed much since 2012, or how to best > deploy OS updates to Windows 7, well, we’ve got session recordings on > Channel 9 that already cover that J > > > > When I was in enterprise IT (granted, that was over 11 years ago now), I > considered TechEd to be the one must-attend conference each year. That > reflected what I did: I was an enterprise infrastructure and desktop > architect, responsible for a variety of Microsoft-related technologies, and > it was the only place where I could find out where I needed to be heading > (for my company) in the coming year. Ignite continues in that tradition. > > > > Thanks, > > -Michael > > > > > > *From:*[email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Rod Trent > *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:04 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? > > > > You really are trying to goad me onto my soapbox, aren’t you? > > > > The problem is highlighted in your text below. Fix that and we may be able > to find our way back to a technical event that this group wants to attend. > J > > > > I’ll make this brief. > > > > We worked extremely hard for MMS each year to ensure there was enough > technical content, despite it being run by marketing. That effort was a LOT > of work that a lot of people don’t realize. In 2013, just prior to TechEd > 2014, we lost our advocates and those left refused to listen. Result: > TechEd 2014 for MMS folks was a joke. > > > > New year, brand new event – marketing still making the decisions, and we > have a total of 5 events rolled into one. Ignite will be bigger and the > focus is clearly on roadmap. That doesn’t hold much hope for those whose > bosses demand a certain level of technical value. And, for this community, > with a smattering of ConfigMgr sessions coming, they can get the same value > just by gathering teams members around a desk and streaming the keynotes in > the office. > > > > There’s very little hope to turn Ignite into a ConfigMgr or on-premises > management heavy event no matter how much feedback is given. That’s simply > not Microsoft’s focus and direction. > > > > However, that all said, it’s not all doom and gloom for me. I’m looking > forward to it (mostly out of curiosity) and Ignite better represents my > focus these days. But, then again, I’m not dealing with the technical > issues that this community is day-in and day-out. > > > > That’s where smaller, more intimate events like the new MMS provide such a > great opportunity for specific groups of people. In my opinion, Microsoft > should just produce the best event it can in Ignite. Make it Microsoft’s > VMWorld – because really that’s the intent: one message to the biggest > crowd possible. But, give up trying to appease the communities. Instead, > invest time, resources, and * marketing* *dollars* in community led > events. Go where the communities are – don’t expect to be able to force > them to come to you. That makes it less stressful for everyone. > > > > > > > > *From:*[email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Aaron Czechowski > *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 2:26 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? > > > > What a coincidence, we were just talking about “slow moving software” in > this morning’s Shiproom…. > > > > To reiterate Michael’s comments, our *marketing* team is working on this, > even talking with BradAnd, and as I hear have until 2/27 to publish. The > list I’ve seen so far includes three additional sessions specific to > ConfigMgr – and we’re doing what we can to get more added. At least one of > those will be 300+ level (I’m the content owner – unfortunately just don’t > know yet whether I’ll be *presenting* it…). > > > > Honestly, this is all awesome feedback. I’ve shared some of your comments > verbatim with * marketing* and leadership so that they understand your > frustrations. I definitely can’t promise that will change anything in the > next several months, but I hope helps inform strategy decisions in the > future. And please don’t let this put any damper on the discussion – it’s > why I’ve been on this list for so many years. J > > > > Aaron > > > > > > *From:*[email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Sherry Kissinger > *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:03 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? > > > > Nash, don't be dissin' SMS > > er... SCCM > > er... ConfigMgr > > er... oh, what's your name today? > > > > > > > > On Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:56 PM, Nash Pherson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > ConfigMgr is being renamed “exasperating and sometimes downright > obnoxious”? > > > > Microsoft EaSDO: For all your systems management needs. > > > > > > *From:*[email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Rod Trent > *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:45 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? > > > > Product name just hasn’t changed yet. J > > > > If you want a more accurate name, look at what Microsoft calls the MVPs in > that area. > > > > *From:*[email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Eric Groff > *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:39 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? > > > > What's in a name? > > Microsoft System Center Configuration Manager > > Sent from my Windows Phone > > *From: *Rod Trent <[email protected]> > > > *Sent: *2/19/2015 12:13 > *To: *[email protected] > *Subject: *RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? > > More will be added for System Center and Server. That much is true. > > > > However, when I was told that, I was also told that Configuration Manager > is not really considered to be part of System Center any longer. So, don’t > expect many more ConfigMgr sessions to post. There’s clear reasons behind > this. > > > > Also consider that Ignite now uses a sort of aged “editorial calendar” > method for sessions. Microsoft has the decks with the proper messaging, and > then the Ignite teams will source the speakers they believe fit the decks > best. I’ll leave it at that. > > > > I almost, **almost**, went off on a soapbox tangent for both preceding > paragraphs. But, you all are smart enough to figure it out. > > > > *From:*[email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Troy Martin > *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:45 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? > > > > As of Saturday, 5 ConfigMgr sessions - http://bit.ly/1Etbsab > > > > > > *Troy L. Martin* | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation > > *Provision software, not infrastructure* > > US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 > > UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 > > [email protected]| www.1e.com > > > > <http://www.1e.com/> > > <http://www.1e.com/> > > > > > *From:[email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Harjit Dhaliwal Sent: > Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:44 AM To:[email protected] Subject: > Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? <http://www.1e.com/>* > > <http://www.1e.com/> > > I think you are being a little swift with your assumptions. The full > session catalog has not been completed and Ignite has mentioned that they > are going to be adding much more to the catalog including System Center > stuff. There are quite a few of us from the ConfigMgr community who will > be attending the conference. > > -Harjit <http://www.1e.com/> > > On 2/19/2015 11:36 AM, Andreas Hammarskjöld wrote: <http://www.1e.com/> > > Hey Ivan, <http://www.1e.com/> > > <http://www.1e.com/> > > If you are looking for ConfigMgr integration Ignite might not be your best > place to hunt. The total lack of ConfigMgr sessions have led to the > ConfigMgr community already renamed the conference MS Ignore (for several > reasons). <http://www.1e.com/> > > <http://www.1e.com/> > > Might change, although unlikely, but damage is already done. > <http://www.1e.com/> > > <http://www.1e.com/> > > //A <http://www.1e.com/> > > <http://www.1e.com/> > > > > > *From:mailto:[email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Troy Martin Sent: den > 19 februari 2015 17:24 To:[email protected] Subject: [mssms] RE: > (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? <http://www.1e.com/>* > > <http://www.1e.com/> > > Hey Ivan, <http://www.1e.com/> > > <http://www.1e.com/> > > Have them stop by the 1E booth. In the meantime, check out our site - > http://www.1e.com/appclarity-software-asset-management/ > <http://www.1e.com/> > > <http://www.1e.com/> > > <http://www.1e.com/> > > Thanks J <http://www.1e.com/> > > <http://www.1e.com/> > > *Troy L. Martin | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation > <http://www.1e.com/>* > > *Provision software, not infrastructure <http://www.1e.com/>* > > US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 <http://www.1e.com/> > > UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 <http://www.1e.com/> > > *[email protected]| www.1e.com <http://www.1e.com/>* > > <http://www.1e.com/> > > <http://www.1e.com/> > > <http://www.1e.com/> > > <http://www.1e.com/> > > > > > *From:mailto:[email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lindenfeld, Ivan Sent: > Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:57 AM To:[email protected] Subject: > [mssms] (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? <http://www.1e.com/>* > > <http://www.1e.com/> > > I have a colleague in the ITAM space wanting to shop but needs to make > sure hunting will be rich. 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