As announced yesterday, we move on to Orlando for next year.  They have more 
escalators in their convention center, but like all convention centers there 
are still bottlenecks.  (Pre-register now to get the best hotels ☺)  And they 
have the same challenges with feeding 20,000+ attendees.  (Breakfast was pretty 
good, the one lunch I had was fine.)

-MTN

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Marable, Mike
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 7:23 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

Very good points, Michael.

The complaints I’ve been hearing about this year’s Ignite are the similar to 
some of those from last year’s event.  Food and crowd management seem to be the 
top concerns.  I have not heard a single complaint about the content.

Even though this is a Microsoft event, there are 2 different companies working 
here.  The content coming from Microsoft, and the infrastructure provided by 
the venue.

The issues that are top on the list are tied to the venue and the company 
managing the venue.  For example, the venue management company spells out the 
options for the food and Microsoft has to pick from what is available.  I 
believe that those are easy to address, especially if this is going to be the 
long term home for Ignite.  As Microsoft and the venue company build a 
relationship, the powers at Microsoft can sit down with the powers from the 
venue and hash out how to do better next year.

Last year there were a number of complaints about transportation (having to 
wait 40+ minutes for buses) and I heard several about rude staff from the venue 
(like security staff).  I have not heard these same complaints this year.  So 
even with changing cities (and I would imagine the companies managing the 
venues) issues from last year were addressed.

I know I for one would not want to be involved in planning an event for 25,000+ 
people.  I cannot begin to imaging the logistic nightmares.  Personally, if the 
biggest complaint is the food, I think that the event was a success.

That’s my long-winded version of, “Yeah!  You tell `em, Michael!”  ☺





From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael Niehaus
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 1:12 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

Personally, I think this is the best Microsoft event that we’ve had in a long 
time.  If you judge a conference by its food rather than what you learn, then I 
think your priorities are messed up.  As was discussed in various places, 
feeding 23,000 people is rather challenging.  I did have the lunch today, it 
was OK – not great, but it also was “grab and go” so I could eat while sitting 
in front of the biggest, longest screen I’ve ever seen, which was live 
streaming 8 sessions at once.

Two keynotes on the first day got all the “marketing” out of the way (and the 
keynotes themselves got good reviews with very high attendance), there was a 
completely overwhelming amount of technical information shared, and there was a 
significant presence with external (and uncensored) speakers, MVPs and 
otherwise, with nearly all 300- and 400-level content.  (We really don’t like 
doing 200-level content for IT pros, we consider that “prerequisite knowledge.”)

We still have some work to do on the social aspects of this, figuring out 
effective ways to get people of common interests together.  We had a lot of fun 
with the “ask us (almost) anything” sessions, there was a lot of great 
conversations with the product group members manning the booths, and a dizzying 
number of 1:1 customer meetings with everyone from me all the way up to our 
CEO.  And I answered questions in pretty much every place imaginable – in the 
airport, in my hotel, in restaurants, on the MARTA trains, even in the 
restroom.  (C’mon guys, respect some boundaries ☺)

If you don’t hear much from us next week, it’s because we’re still recovering.

-MTN

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 1:00 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

"So, the bigger the event, the worse the quality?"
No only in food, but also in quality of content and the depth of the content. 
The only people big events like that work out for are vendors and Microsoft.
MS employees have to take off less time from work to go to the event.
Marketing can plan everything for a single event. They prep the slide decks in 
advance and then decide you will read them. It is just marketing content and 
you are basically a fool if you paid for it.
This is all about being good for Microsoft, not the customer. They stopped 
caring about the customer a long time ago. Now it is all about recurring 
payments and their bottom line.
You see this with support, big fixes (or lack thereof), crappy events, missing 
kb articles, and a push towards the cloud and recurring payments. Even the way 
they fix their broken products is now being driven by what is best for them 
(monolithic updates)
They got rid of the solution accelerator team because they no longer care about 
adding value to their products, they just care about their bottom line and 
trying to be apple.
Their enterprise operating system even pushes down advertising against your 
will.
Just blows my mind anyone would give them money to listen to that marketing 
speak.
Obviously the same people that would pay for "Cloud"


On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Roland Janus 
<roland.ja...@hispeed.ch<mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch>> wrote:
To sum that up:

MS doesn’t safe any money, which is sad by itself, lunchboxes costing the same 
as “real” food.
It’s cold and while it may be fresh, it’s mostly tasteless and just horrible 
IMO.

And all that because waiting in line for 5 minutes is to long? I never had to 
wait longer and certainly not 20-30 minutes.
While waiting at the restroom, at least for guys ☺, may take even longer?

So, the bigger the event, the worse the quality?
That’s just sad.

Cheers, roland


Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] 
Im Auftrag von Adam Juelich
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. September 2016 16:57
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>
Betreff: Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

All of this talk about 'severed' food is freaking me out a bit....

😉

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
<joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov<mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov>> wrote:
Mmm, peach cobbler.  I’d be happy to take yours off your hands, Garth, since 
you’re watching your weight. ;)

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] 
On Behalf Of Garth Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:39 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

I’m just providing the details that I was told as to why we have lunch boxes vs 
hot food. Like you I prefer hot food but it does mean that you have to wait in 
line to be severed.

This question was not who wanted lunch boxes, the issue was how long it took to 
be severed. Even thought I go to the vendor food hall, it always seen to take 5 
minutes before you could make it to the food table before getting severed. Then 
it would take a bit longer to slowly make you way to the other end. If anything 
ran out you would wait until they replaced it. This year there has been no 
waiting to grab a lunch box.

Again my understanding is that the cost is exactly the same for MS for the 
lunch boxes, and the quality is much higher than your normal lunch boxed. I 
would agree that these lunch boxes are a lot high quality than normal lunch 
boxes. When do you see cut fresh fruit in a lunch box and a peach cobbler?

Don’t get me wrong, I want a hot lunch. All I’m doing is giving another 
prospective on things.

Food waste will happen with both lunch boxes and catered food, I agree that it 
will be less with catered. But on the plus side, I’m trying to watch my weight, 
so a box lunch, will help keep me in check. ☺

BTW, I was also told that the boxes are recycled however because they are a 
hard plastic, I wouldn’t be surprised if they are washed and reused.

BBTW, I was talking @RicksterCDN about this on Sunday night this is the only 
reason why I know any of this. He is a good guy and if you can catch him or 
Joey, I’m sure that they will give you more details about this.


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: September 28, 2016 1:49 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

How many actually asked for the lunch boxes instead of warm and proper cooked 
food?
The majority prefers  that over a cooked meal?
I have a hard time believing that and I never waited that long.
But it certainly is cheaper for MS, but I do think we pay enough to get 
something better regardless
Maybe I’m just spoiled with real bread (coming from Europe) and not that piece 
of tasteless foam used.
And then that dry chicken. BRRRR.

Not even talking about how many half used boxes go into the garbage.


Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Garth Jones
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. September 2016 17:20
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

So I talked to the team about this and the Lunch boxes was the feed back that 
they got form last ignite. People didn’t want to wait for 20-30 minutes to get 
food. They wanted to get in and out in 5 minutes so that they can talk to 
friends, office, family during the breaks.

So what they did was if they spent $30 on hot food per person, they turned 
around bought lunch that cost $30/each, this way you get better food and can 
get in and out within a few minutes. Therefore you don’t have to wait in line 
for you food nearly as long…


Right, wrong… I’m just says that is why we have lunch boxes..



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: September 27, 2016 12:21 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

I’m kind of surprised that there are not a zillion comments about the horrible 
food we get at Ignite.

Cold sandwiches? Seriously and like the same every day?
I’ve good better food on any airplane and it’s warm.

That is just not acceptable.

-R













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