On Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:09:20 +0200, Antoni Burguera wrote:
>Programs of other MSX can be only for starting. After that,
>specific projects can be developed. That's all I say.
Holy Faith you have....
For when the first ones?
>>If we haven't been able to evolve the standard of
>>development even to MSX2+ and 256K, are you telling me
>>we'll jump directly to Z380 and MBytes? HA!
>IMHO, the jump hasn't been possible because is difficult to
>find a MSX2+.
:OOOOOO
If you were from former USSR states, or from countries with
scarce MSX presence I'd agree, but at Holland (mainly
upgraded MSX2->2+ there) or Spain (sold by LASP) not.
Affordable or not is another discussion.
Now it is neither difficult nor expensive to buy a MSX2+. Why
don't you buy it? :?
>MSX2+ and memory are difficult to find.
:OOOOOOO
Where have you been up to this date? Or have you chosen an
incorrect verbal tense? :???
[About being a hobby]
Of course its development is a matter of hobby! No doubt!
But to hobby or not to hobby... that's not the question... at least
in this case I am not discussing that. I am discussing a REAL
utility (not an hypothetical one) of it. And his main developer has
the purpose for that Z380 to play a real role on MSX. And this
won't happen. It could had happen it if were released before.
But not now.
Things like projects of a Prince of Persia look-alike games have
future. Software is the main track to follow.
Hasn't hardware any future? Not.
Cheaper MegaSCSI/GPX9000/Moonsound (or compatible
clones) could have future.
Acrobat-ACCNet-RS232C SHOULD have future.
A 512 Kbytes VRAM expansion -pageable, of course- COULD
have future.
Thingies like Goblin (2xV9958) could have future.
And above all: the hardware developed by now SHOULD have
future.
>There are two options. First option: build a Z380 based MSX.
>Second option: Nothing. Choose.
Mmmh. Nothing...huh? I start to understand...
So, V9958 -quoting you- is nothing. R800 or Z80 7MHz are
nothing. DOS2.2 is nothing. 256 Kbytes built in the Music
Module are nothing. Rs232, ACCNet and Acrobat are no more
no less than nothing. 512 Kbytes, 1,2,4 Mbytes are nothing.
And of course, either IDE or SCSI are just nothing. And
GPX9000 and Moonsound??? Let me guess... Nothing? :)
Dude, here you have a nice list of stuff which has been
avalaible (now or in the past) and that in some cases have had
few -very few- specific programmes.
As you can see we're not starting from nothing.
>>>Then, you can put GFX9000 and have great graphics.
>>Ehmmm, I'll try to be diplomatic... Do you read magazines?
>Yes. And you? (exceptuating "Hola", "10 minutos" and "Muy
>Interesante", of course ;) )
Yeah, some... In fact I make one... :P
>>How many progs for GPX9000 lately?
>Hei! I only say that you can put a GFX9000 for demonstrating
>that GPX power will not be a problem!!!
And I'm putting GFX9000 as an example for telling what will
happen (hope not, but history tends to repeat).
Take magazines from the time in which Moonsound and
GPX9000 appeared. Everybody -even me, at least in the case
of Moonsound- wowing about the excelence, the new views
opened to MSX... And now? What about them? Ubi sunt?
>>The release of it is not a problem... When Leonardo Padial
>>wants to release anything he does it, and end of question.
>>The problems come after the release....
>Then, we must find programmers with the spirit of Leonardo
>Padial X'D
Ha ha ha :(
>Well, then the problem isn't MMSX. MMSX only open some
>doors. Let's use them!
Programmers tend to be extremely standard when coding.
At late 1992 started to code for MSX2+ (Do all you remind Dix
and Megadoom?) and even something appeared for Turbo R
(Swiss Demo and, Relax demo, the last one converted to
MSX2, 'para mas inri').
Then, everything stopped and returned to MSX2-128K-FM
(MusMod optional).
>>They'll have to buy it, to learn about it, to test it, to code it
>>and to make a final product? How much time do you think
>>they need? Years.
>Of course. I can see this perfectly! I am not new in the
>computer world!
.....sigh.....
>>And don't doubt it, we're running out of time and people,
>>specially the kind of people that knows to make things,
>>concretely the NICE things.
>Ok. And?
And??? My last data about programming procedures on MSX
show clearly that a programme has to be designed, typed and
properly debugged by a human being.
I'm sure you are smart enough for guessing what happens when
there are less graphicians, musicians and coders. And when the
loss are talented guys.... sigh.
>>The age of 'unlimited' growth of MSX passed years ago. And
>>it won't return.
>Certainly. I can see this perfectly.
(no comment)
> Then, why don't evolve to a MMSX? It will be difficult, but...
Why not? Use a calculator. Both for calculating the -total- price
and an estimation of years to come until a nice programme will
be developed.
CYA
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