> >I'm sure a good programmer knows how his trick works, but I think this
> >"hiding" is especially important for demo-programmers (sorry Mark :) but
> >I think that's the way it is) because a demo is usually nothing more than
> >a technical trick.
> 
> Absolutely true...

Usually is right word, and I agree, but good demo effect is not just a
trick. Good demo effect is :

Really good idea, nice trick and cool graphics all together.

I don't want to hear, that everything is allready done for MSX, because I
know very well, that it is not true. It is just a lack of imagination, if
you can't get new ideas. (In that case you could try a bottle of vodka,
that can help pretty much of designing new effects.) :-)

If someone can fiqure out, how this trick part was made by using
PAUSE-key, it does not make it any worse. If this guy then does this same
trick, then so what ? You were first one anyway. And maybe "giving away"
this trick can make someone to generate even more "evil" idea on his head,
that causes we to have even more unbeliveabble demos.

Demo can be good even without any real tricks, because it can be also
"art-demo", that just has forexample good pictures, and good sync with
music.

If someone does not know, what I mean, then look forexample my www-page
demo. It is just a pure BASIC-demo without any tricks. (Ok, it is not a
good demo, because I can't draw anything and music is even ment to be
horribble, but idea should be quite a clear.)

If you still think, that PAUSE-key is most horribble thing, that MSX has,
then you can make those peoples life to feel more like shit by looking
forexample RTC and if some second was missed, then... reset ???
This atleast makes it to take more time to check what you did.
(BTW Colums resets your score, if you stop it by PAUSE. Very good idea !)

> > If the tricks are known, the demo isn't that much fun anymore.
> 
> I don't agree with that.  I've seen a lot of demo's based on the same
> principle (eg. mix lines using line interrupts) and I really still
> appreciate a some of them (not only including my own ;-))

Another, that does not agree...

> >Cas (knows theory and a lot of practice, so get coding!)
> 
> Eric (willing to 'get coding' but having trouble to findsome spare time...
>       Does someone have a couple of days to spare? Can I buy them?)

NYYRIKKI (knows theory, a little practice, horribbly lot of stuppid ideas
          and allways too less time to make all of them to come true!)


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