At 11:33 PM 7/17/99 +0200, you wrote:

> As I told in another message, I think it is not neccesary the creation of
>a special representation, Phoenix must be opened for all the users, like
>Internet.

I agree that the discussions and the specifications should be accessible to
everyone. But how are decisions made? There will always be people with
different opinions, but at some point there has to be a choice or otherwise
you can't move on.

> It is not neccesary to vote!, how many hardware developers we have??, in 
>Spain only Padial is involved in serious projects, Ademir in Brasil, our
>friends of ESE in Japan, Sunrise in Holland...more??

Did you ever see anyone of ESE discuss on this list or the newsgroup? I
think they either prefer to work alone or don't like English.

About Sunrise, Sunrise Holland and Swiss have merged.
As far as I know, they distribute hardware, but they don't have a
"development staff". Whoever develops a project is different per project.

About Henrik, who you mentioned a couple of times, I don't think he does
MSX anymore. I haven't seen him on fairs for some time now and he didn't
make new hardware or driver either (luckily Jon took over IDE BIOS
development).

>I think there arenit
>more big hardware developers, so it is not difficult to stablish a mutual
>agreement between them. The programmers will be beneficiated of this 
>agreement because they know the full compatibility guaranteed by Phoenix.

Ah, so you want to give the hardware developers the right to decide...

> Well, this is certainly complicated, I think Phoenix must assumpt the 
>system hardware developments like Z380, new musics board, new VDP boards...
> Nowaday we have no problems because there is only a new music board and a
>new VDP board (I think): Moonsound and GFX9000, but it could be a real 
>problem if somebody makes a new OPL4 incompatible with Moonsound, Phoenix
>has the responsability in this kind of problems.

I'm more concerned that 0 persons will make "device X" than that 2 persons
will make incompatible devices.
But maybe Phoenix can help there too, by combining efforts of developers
it's easier to finish a project.

> We know that MSX is a generational standard, theorically MSX-TR is
>compatible
>with MSX-1, MSX-2 and MSX-2+, MSX 2 with MSX-1...possible new MSX computers
>have to be compatible with MSX TR, 2+, 2 and 1 obviosly.

I'm not sure turbo R compatibility would be a good thing. You would need an
R800-compatible processor for example, and as far as I know Z380 isn't.

> The Phoenix directory in funet is a good idea, but it is neccesary to
>create a new mailing list, this ML has a big number of unuseful messages
>for developers, the new MSX mailing list is oriented only for MSX 
>developers, so emulators, opinions about games or tips are strictly 
>prohibited.

The bad thing of a new list is that many people won't subscribe to it,
although they may have interesting ideas. Maybe we can use this list and
put "[Phoenix]" in the subject?

> If you have a good knownledge of WEB programming, contact with my POP3 
>adress: [EMAIL PROTECTED], I will coordinate the creation of a WEB 
>programming group, now we need about 10 Mb or more of web space in a 
>free server, it is important to have an own DNS.

I have some space left and I'm allowed to use CGI. I don't have the ability
to aquire my own domain name, the shortest I can offer ends in
"/~mth/phoenix/". But does a domain name really matter? Ofcourse it looks
cool, but anyone who's really interested can bookmark a more complicated URL.

Anyway, I am willing to put up some pages, but I would like to see some
material first. For example a discussion between hardware developers, or a
specification that can be released to the public. I think there is no point
in making a "Phoenix Web" when all there is to publish is good intentions.

Bye,
                Maarten


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