On Mon, 19 Jul 1999 20:44:25 +0200, Laurens Holst wrote:
>> I'm not sure turbo R compatibility would be a good thing. You would need
>> an R800-compatible processor for example, and as far as I know Z380 isn't.
>??? ISN'T IT ???
No, it is not. I'm sure of this.
>Well, then maybe we can disassemble and adapt turboR-programs. I mean, the
>only non-Z380 compatible instructions are MULUW and MULUB, aren't they???
>The other ones also work on a Z80 (though undocumented). I bet the Z380 has
>a good counterpart for MULUW and MULUB... So that shouldn't be too
>difficult. Just search for the opcode and replace it.
It can be made by hardware, because Z380 has a special feature, like an
interrupt when an unknown command is found... So these instructions can
be redirected to another single processor that only execute these instructions.
It would be a lot more interesting, because avoid changing programs.
(AFAIK, this thing can be done even on Z80, but the processor for R800
instructions must be BEFORE the Z80, and this will be a bit more complicated
to build).
but... it will be almost cosmetic, and will exist only for "strange" the strange
opcodes present on R800 and not on Z380. Besides, Z380 has a couple
of MULT instructions that are not present on R800.
And all "secret" Z80 opcodes are documented on Z380.
>Maybe then I can finally play Illusion City! To play Illusion City, is MIDI
>nessacary? And is the PCM device nessacary??? What other points of
>incompatibility could it have???
The MIDI is not necessary. The PCM is. BUT this can be easy copied.
I'm trying to convince Ademir Carchano to made one for my CIEL 2+ Turbo.
>Well, actually I think a 'new' MSX should also have a PCM sampling device,
>so why not take the tuboR's sampleunit?
I think it's wise to copy the TurboR one, only for compatability. Something
better must be added. The PCM on TR is very primitive.
>> The bad thing of a new list is that many people won't subscribe to it,
>> although they may have interesting ideas. Maybe we can use this list and
>> put "[Phoenix]" in the subject?
>Yes, yes. They do that in the int-fiction newsgroup too!!!
>Only one thing: A lot of people are subscribed to the newsgroup but not to
>this list (I can understand that, sometimes the message-flow is a bit much
>here, while you can skip them in a newsgroup. Although the subjects are way
>more interesting here...). So I think we should find a solution to that...
Who is interested on reading only this type of subject can use filters, present
on almost all good message hearder (at least for PC, once I don't know any
message reader for MSX).
>Will a web-based forum work??? Just an idea... Although... I don't think it
>will be visited really frequently, like a mailinglist, which you are forced
>to pay attention to. Maybe someone should put all or the important messages
>concerning Phoenix (so with [Phoenix] in the subject-line) online on the
>Phoenix webpage, or something like that...
I think it would be nice to make the suggestions and discussions here, and
the need for a Web page will be only to comunicate to everyone the
decisions (and not the suggestions or ideas). I think the need is to
achieve into an MSX 3.0 (or MSX 4.0 if it will be backward compatible with TR)
standard. With this on their hands, the hardware developers can easily
develop their own hardware, based on the specs. And the programmers
also will find easy to find the information on the Web Page.
>> I have some space left and I'm allowed to use CGI. I don't have the
>>ability to aquire my own domain name, the shortest I can offer ends in
>> "/~mth/phoenix/". But does a domain name really matter? Ofcourse it looks
>> cool, but anyone who's really interested can bookmark a more complicated
>> URL.
>It's not about bookmarking I think. you should be able to remember it, to
>tell about it to others...
Create a redirection on http://www.cjb.net/ . So people can acess it using something
like:
http://www.phoenix.cjb.net/
It's free.
[]'s Daniel Caetano
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