> 6 мая 2015 г., в 15:49, Alexander Shukaev <[email protected]> написал(а):
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 2:31 PM, David Macek <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Alexander Shukaev wrote:
> > I've talked to Emacs devs, and it's still questionable whether they will
> > backport that. It seems like releases of Emacs 24.x are going to be
> > suspended.
> >
> > Another question though, is it possible to make an option to install
> > "libgnutls-28.dll".
>
> You are of course free to downgrade/freeze your packages as you see fit, but
> remember that it's not a supported scenario.
>
> > Emacs devs, for examples, also told me that the new GnuTLS has some
> > security issues, and is generally not meant for broad public yet. It's
> > good that MSYS2 is constistently catching up with bleeding edge features,
> > but it's also not good to blindly switch to new libraries/tools without
> > having an option to switch back. What do you think?
>
>
> We're following the model of Arch Linux, and the phrase "to blindly switch to
> new libraries" describes the model pretty well :). However, Arch Linux _is_
> doing some testing before releasing new versions and they're also on v3.4.x,
> so maybe the issues are not so bad.
>
> Other than that, I can't say much about the GnuTLS upgrade or its
> implications, that's Alexey's field.
>
> The point is not to change the default fact of upgrading to the newest
> packages. The point is to add an option to install previous versions of
> GnuTLS, while still having the latest one. I don't propose to do that for
> all packages. Here is an exceptional case, where a library remains
> compatible between very rare releases of new interface (26, 28, 30), so why
> not allow an option to install all of them? For instance, `emacs-git' (which
> will become Emacs 25 soon) already has a feature to switch between those 3
> versions of GnuTLS interface (only at compile time however). So how about
> `gnutls-26', `gnutls-28', `gnutls-30' packages with `gnutls' pointing at
> `gnutls-30'?
>
> On 6. 5. 2015 12:28, Alexander Shukaev wrote:
> > I'm not a huge fan of bumping, but this is just to let you know that I'm
> > still interested in your vision on this question.
>
> My vision is that GnuTLS is left as is, and Emacs can be fixed as I described
> before:
>
> On 30. 4. 2015 17:01, David Macek wrote:
> > 2) The fix can be cherry picked into a patch file and the mingw-w64-emacs
> > package can be modified to apply the patch. If you make a correct pull
> > request for this, I believe it will be accepted and the new, GnuTLS-enabled
> > packages shall become available in the repositories soon. When a proper
> > release comes out, the patch can be removed.
>
> Although it's a very small change(*) and I could do it, I was hoping you
> would, because you're definitely more able to test the resulting build.
>
> *) Essentially this: export GnuTLS patch file from Emacs git history, put it
> into mingw-w64-emacs directory, add to sources=, add line to prepare(),
> increase pkgrel, update checksums, build, test, commit, push, send pull
> request.
>
> There is no point of doing that anymore as 24.x series are suspended. As
> for the question, I refereed only to having an option of installing different
> GnuTLS interfaces.
>
I don’t want to maintain/build multiple versions of one package because I spent
too much time on it. You can create local packages, for example, gnutls28 and
build it yourself (also don’t forget to resolve issues with files conflict
between different gunnels versions).
Not only EMACS depends on Gnutls package, so you need be able to install
multiple gnutls packages at the same time.
Regards,
Alexey.
> Regards,
> Alexander
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