Dear Natalia, Hermann, Christian, and all,
To answer Natalia's question Romanian<-> Italian, I have never heard of an MT system for such a language pair. Maybe someone at some university has made a prototype of one.
As for Hermann's question about commercially available Italian > English pair, I confirm Christian statement that SYSTRAN v5 (the European language pack) has Italian paired with English.
No English<->Italian by PROMT yet. Just Russian<-> Italian thus far. Info on their language pairs in their recent press release early this month (March 2005) at:
http://www.e-promt.com/en/news/1881.php
Software reviews of MT (and other NLP) systems are available at the Language Techology Software Review site at:
http://www.geocities.com/langtecheval/
Please note the following few entries are not yet entered to that site but will probably be referenced there in a couple of days:
Tom Wassmer's recent review of SYSTRAN v5 Pro http://www.multilingual.com/wassmer269.htm
My recent review of Pocket PROMT 4.0 http://www.multilingual.com/allen68.htm
Tom Wassmer's recent review of PASSOLO v5 http://www.multilingual.com/wassmer169.htm
I am also currently testing and plan to provide reviews of the following: SYSTRAN v5, PROMT XT v6.5, PROMT XT v7 beta
- if you don't know Italian, you can understand the overall meaning, but postediting into a professional quality level is not possible.
The following short article shows that Full Postediting for high-quality professional translation work is very much possible.
ALLEN, Jeff. What is Post-editing? Translation Automation Newsletter, Issue 4. February 2005. Published by Cross-Language.
http://www.geocities.com/mtpostediting/TA_IssueFour.pdf
Finally, whether you know Italian or not, you might improve the "rough translation" output by using the interactive disambiguation facility introduced in version 5.
or use the following step-by-step procedure (especially for helping monolingual speakers).
ALLEN, Jeff. January/February 2005. Getting started with Machine Translation. In the special supplement "Guide to Translation" of MultiLingual Computing & Technology, Number 69, Volume 16, Issue 1.
https://216.18.156.115/multilingual/downloads/screenSupp69.pdf
Regards,
Jeff
Jeff Allen Paris, France [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Christian Boitet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Hermann Plustwik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Natalia Elita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <mt-list@eamt.org>
Subject: [Mt-list] mt Italian > English : ask Google, try/buy Systran
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:27:55 +0200
Hi, 29/3/05
At 9:53 +1000 29/03/05, Hermann Plustwik wrote:Hi,
Sorry, to take up your time, but Natalia's query encourages me to ask a question.
Can anyone point me to a worthwhile and working mt system for Italian > English?
Just general English, but preferably with dictionary editing facility or 'user dictionary'.
Thank you in advance, your help is much appreciated.
Hermann Plustwik, Melbourne Australia.
Just ask Google "MT system Italian-English" to see what exists and then go to the Systran web site and buy the Pro version to be able to edit user dictionaries.
English > Italian is quite at the level of English > French.
I show a trial of Italian > English below. I think it is quite usable:
- to understand the gist if you don't know Italian
- to produce a good translation quicker if you first read the Italian and then use the output as a help.
LanguageWeaver claims to do all sorts of language pairs by statistical methods, but I did not find this one, nor any site where to experiment the existing ones. Probable reason for not having a demo site: to produce Systran-level translations, they have to align and process a very large translation memory (in the order of 50M words, or 200000 standard translator's pages, as said by K.Knight at CICLING-05). However, when that is available, the results are quite impressive!
About Transcend & others, I had no time to check, please try.
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from http://www.peyrot.it/website-translation-localization/traduzione-gratuita-siti.htm
It clearly shows that:
- if you know Italian,
. you can produce a good English translation with that as "suggestion" or "help" quite faster than without.
. if you enrich the user dictionary, you may quickly fix certain mistakes (e.g. siti -> sites)
- if you don't know Italian, you can understand the overall meaning, but postediting into a professional quality level is not possible.
Finally, whether you know Italian or not, you might improve the "rough translation" output by using the interactive disambiguation facility introduced in version 5.
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