In my mind Andy Way should not have done anything. If the abuse was life
threatening, or something serious like that, it would have been a matter for
the authorities. It's not for the community to judge. Quoting from
someone's application without their permission is a breach of confidence,
however well-intended. I would be wary under such circumstances to apply
myself. If he behaved like a jerk and is a fake (all of which is quite
possible), the former is unfortunate but does not warrant community-wide
broadcasting; the latter can be easily found out by verifying references.
By no means I do condone the applicant's alleged behavior (although we're in
the dark about the precise nature); I just feel that it was not communicated
appropriately and would better not have been communicated at all.
Job van Zuijlen
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From: "Christian Boitet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 09:53
To: "Lewis, Derek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Job M. van Zuijlen"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Andy Way" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]>
Cc: "Daoud Maher Daoud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "daoud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
"Mosleh Al-Adaileh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Andy's warning] Rogue student's name should perhaps have been
hidden
Hi Derek, 15/4/08
At 10:15 +0100 15/04/08, Lewis, Derek wrote:
I would merely advise all parties to terminate this discussion at once
and to remove all references to it from their mail boxes. To discuss an
individual's application, personal circumstances or reaction to
acceptance or rejection of a post involving even part-time engagement on
an open list or via email in this way is simply asking for legal trouble,
no matter what one may feel. This is especially the case if the
information discussed can lead to the individual being identified.
Believe me, I have seen exactly this kind of thing lead to the threat of
legal action and the institution involved having to settle with serious
money.
Derek Lewis
Too late I am afraid: this person was identified by name in the very first
e-mail by Andy.
You have a very strong point here, however.
Hence the (serious and friendly) question:
what could Andy have done to warn the community without telling the name
of the person (which I dutifully suppress from this e-mail as well as the
copy of following e-mails)?
Maybe he could have sent the same e-mail, with the name replaced by XXX
YYY ? Or would any possibility to identify the person from the profile be
too much? But then, nobody could actually be "warned" as he (rightfully)
wanted, and there would have been no point in his e-mail...
Best,
Xan
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