Thanks, Dan. The main goal is to tag images that are *not* suitable for display in Media Viewer (either because they are small, unrelated icons or flags — or because they do not display well in the current viewer).
Since most images are suitable for Media Viewer, I would not recommend requiring every image to be manually tagged for inclusion — but rather only tag the images that need to be excluded. As for other use cases, it’s possible that some future applications (e.g. a slide-show maker) might also want to use this class to filter relevant images from an article. Hence the proposal to not make the name specific to Media Viewer, if that’s easy to do. Hope this helps, Fabrice On May 12, 2014, at 2:47 PM, dan-nl <[email protected]> wrote: > i may be mis-understanding the goal … > > 1, it looks like you want to distinguish between elements on a web page that > should be viewable in mediaviewer vs those that should not. > > 2. you want to use a css class to distinguish these elements. > > 3. you mentioned that there may be future or other use cases and so you want > a generic css class; what would the other use cases be? > > if the idea is to distinguish between items that should be viewable in > mediaviewer vs those that should not, then i like > > .mediaviewer > .mediaviewer-item > > > with kind regards, > dan > > > On May 12, 2014, at 23:19 , Fabrice Florin <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Dear Dan, Geni, Hay and Jan: >> >> Thank you all for responding so quickly with your good suggestions! >> >> Do any of these ideas resonate for you more than others? Have we missed >> anything else? >> >> 1. Ideas for a single class: >> .exclude >> .for-page-only >> .hide >> .media-reliant >> .media-secondary >> .media-navigational >> .nommw >> .noshow >> .unrelated >> >> or ... >> >> 2. Ideas for multiple classes: >> .navigational >> .maintenance >> .award >> .protection >> >> Which of these suggestions seem more practical to you? >> >> Should we take this discussion onwiki? or do you think we can resolve it via >> email? >> >> We would love to find a swift resolution together, so we can make this >> feature available sooner rather than later … >> >> Much appreciated, >> >> >> Fabrice >> >> >> On May 12, 2014, at 1:43 PM, Jan Ainali <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> How about just .unrelated? Simple to understand, following the criteria you >>> just mentioned. More human readable than something more technically correct >>> such as .nommw >>> >>> Med vänliga hälsningar, >>> Jan Ainali >>> >>> Verksamhetschef, Wikimedia Sverige >>> 0729 - 67 29 48 >>> >>> Tänk dig en värld där varje människa har fri tillgång till mänsklighetens >>> samlade kunskap. Det är det vi gör. >>> Bli medlem. >>> >> >> On May 12, 2014, at 12:58 PM, Hay (Husky) <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I guess the best class name would be one that indicates that the image >>> is for viewing 'in the flow of the article only', and isn't really >>> meant for viewing as a standalone image (which is what you would use >>> the mediaviewer for). >>> >>> So maybe something like: >>> >>> for-page-only >>> media-reliant >>> media-secondary >>> media-navigational >>> >>> I guess prefixing it with 'media' would not be a bad idea as well to >>> avoid having it clash with other classnames (that's why 'hide' or >>> 'noshow' would probably be too generic). >>> >>> -- Hay >>> >>> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 9:48 PM, geni <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> I'd probably go with multiple descriptive classes rather than a single tag >>>> if you are looking for future proofing. >>>> >>>> *navigational >>>> *maintenance >>>> *award >>>> *protection >>>> >> >> On May 12, 2014, at 12:43 PM, dan-nl <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> .not-multimedia >>> >>> or maybe reverse the logic and only allow tagged items to appear in media >>> viewer >>> >>> .multimedia >>> >>> >>> with kind regards, >>> dan >>> >>> >>> On May 12, 2014, at 21:32 , Fabrice Florin <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> We would appreciate your help to come up with a class name that community >>>> members can use to exclude an image from Media Viewer or related tools. >>>> >>>> Too many small files (like icons, flags, etc.) appear in Media Viewer for >>>> some articles, even though they are unrelated to the topic of the article. >>>> Other image files also need to be excluded, because they are not suitable >>>> for Media Viewer (such as maps using weird CSS/JS tricks, or images which >>>> use a clipping template). >>>> >>>> Many community members have reported this issue, which delivers an >>>> unpleasant browsing experience for users who only want to view images that >>>> are relevant for the article they are reading (and which are supported by >>>> Media Viewer). >>>> >>>> We agree that this is an important issue. The most practical way to >>>> address it would require editors to add a .metadata class to the images >>>> they don’t want to show on a page, as proposed here: >>>> >>>> https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/multimedia/cards/511 >>>> >>>> We just need to come up with a class name people are happy with for >>>> excluding an image from Media Viewer or related tools. We already exclude >>>> images which have a .metadata class, but there are images that aren't >>>> really metadata but still not appropriate. >>>> >>>> Any ideas? What class name do you recommend we use to convey this >>>> important information? >>>> >>>> Here are some possible ideas, to get this conversation started; >>>> * hide >>>> * exclude >>>> * noshow >>>> * ?? >>>> >>>> It would be best if we agreed on a name that is not tied to Media Viewer, >>>> so it can be used by other tools which may have the same needs, now or in >>>> the future. >>>> >>>> Once we settle on a class name, we can schedule that feature for >>>> development, so editors can filter out unsuitable images for everyone’s >>>> viewing pleasure :) >>>> >>>> Thanks for your feedback! >>>> >>>> >>>> Fabrice >>>> >>>> _______________________________ >>>> >>>> Fabrice Florin >>>> Product Manager, Multimedia >>>> Wikimedia Foundation >>>> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fabrice_Florin_(WMF) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Multimedia mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/multimedia >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Multimedia mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/multimedia >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Fabrice Florin >> Product Manager >> Wikimedia Foundation >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fabrice_Florin_(WMF) >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Multimedia mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/multimedia > > > _______________________________________________ > Multimedia mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/multimedia _______________________________ Fabrice Florin Product Manager Wikimedia Foundation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fabrice_Florin_(WMF)
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