Pine,

I would like to help. I think that quiddity's suggestions are good. Perhaps
we should tackle individual segments of how to edit with VE rather than the
whole kit & caboodle. More of a just-in-time approach to VE help.

That said, I have no real experience with VE as I tend to work directly
with Wiki markup. Bringing a beginner's mind to VE might be a good thing.

I also do not have either a Chromebook or Linux systems that the tools
suggested at
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/education/2015-March/001273.html use.
Perhaps someone in the Seattle area who has a Linux PC can assist us.

Except for Saturday morning, I am available this coming weekend (although
on-call) to start.

Yours,
Peaceray

On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 6:39 PM, quiddity <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Jan Ainali <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Just an idea, for the part on how to edit with VisualEditor, make several
>> short videos with distinct themes instead of one long video covering it
>> all. Not only will it be easier to record and edit, it will be easier to
>> reuse if you a question like question "How do I add a source with VE?" and
>> you can just point them to that video rather than handing them a 30 minute
>> video and trying to remember at what time that part starts.
>>
>>
>
> Strong +1. The shorter a video is, the more people will watch/listen to
> it.
> I'd recommend 30-90 seconds as the ideal target, with ~4 minutes as the
> second ideal target, and ~10 minutes as the maximum.  Anything longer than
> that, could be broken up into chunks, and should be, Because:
> A) less "time-commitment" for viewers (it can kindle the enthusiasm of
> clicking "oh, just one more!", rather than "oh god, another entire
> hour-at-once!"),
> B) it allows multiple shorter videos to be embedded in a page of text,*
> C) it has much more potential over the years ahead, for us (*all*) to
> update/improve/adapt/fork/subtitle/remix/etc each *segment* of it, in
> every wiki that it is wanted.
>
> The text of the accompanying page could be:
> * A concise version of the video(s), in bulletform list. I.e. "Slide-show
> presentation" style. With just keywords, and the clickable links to
> whatever the video is describing.
> * Or, a match of the video(s) content, for people without video-options
> * Or, a more elaborate/extensive/complete version of the video(s) content.
> E.g. our full Policy/Guideline/MoS/Essay/Help/etc pages themselves!
>
>
> (Re: screencasts, I replied to the earlier thread related to this, but
> didn't CC-all, sorry! See
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/education/2015-March/001273.html )
>
> --quiddity
>
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