David, May I ask a question regarding contactless cards? I have several such for transportation.
If we are talking IDs they should be usable also for remote work which requires PIN-codes and PKI. Is this a reality today? Seems pretty hard to get an assymetric crypto engine to run on feeble RF. And PIN-codes require a lot of interaction. Anders ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Corcoran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 16:42 Subject: Re: [Muscle] Wireless Wallet - Already in Korea Hi, I'm actually quite impressed with the contactless smart cards that are emerging in the marketplace. There are a couple full featured ones that do everything a normal card would do and are quite fast. I like the idea of contactless cards used with passports. Although passports generally have a physical picture printed, a contactless card would provide a high speed, convenient mechanism to pass a trusted, digitally signed digital picture of the user as well. One of my big concerns on the emergence of contactless is that we are sort of starting over from a protocol perspective. Contact card readers are just now finally getting to the point where interfaces are standardized and a reader will work with lots of different cards without problems. As contactless emerges, I'm almost positive there will be similar issues with certain readers not working well with certain cards like we had with the contact cards a few years ago. Hopefully it won't take long before vendor A-Z's contactless cards will work with vendor B's contactless reader. Contactless works well now because the contactless provider provides the card and reader in most cases or has strategic relationships with another vendor that provides the reader. As this technology broadens, we may open ourselves up to problems we had with contact based cards a few years ago. Best Regards, Dave On Mar 5, 2004, at 1:14 AM, Anders Rundgren wrote: > http://www1.chinadaily.com.cn/en/doc/2003-10/15/content_272271.htm > > But I believe a "Wireless Citizen Card" is much more > interesting long-term because if you are "identified" > you can "be" all the other things you need to be like > paying using 3D Secure which do not require a local > credit card (as it resides on secure servers). > > So far it looks like the EU will lose the initiative as > we have no dominant software vendors and other > important parties seem unable to go outside of their > own core business. > > I say it one more time: The smart ID card is dead and gone. > It is beyond repair. > > It is like X.500 versus the Web. > Or OSI versus TCP/IP. > Or BetaMax versus VHS. > > I saw it happen in "slow-motion"... > > regards > Anders Rundgren > > > _______________________________________________ > Muscle mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.musclecard.com/mailman/listinfo/muscle > _______________________________________________ Muscle mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.musclecard.com/mailman/listinfo/muscle _______________________________________________ Muscle mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.musclecard.com/mailman/listinfo/muscle
