Welson,
I would actually be more interested to see how Muscle could address
this potentially very useful technology.  Personally I don't mind _some_
flaming but I believe quite a few others do.  I am afraid that Scott and
I could go on 4-ever if not stopped in time...

Anders

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Welson R. Jacometti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "MUSCLE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 21:47
Subject: Re: [Muscle] NFC - A killer technology


Hello guys,

  I used to love Bitnet flames. Please let's start one here!!!

Welson

Anders Rundgren wrote:

>Scott,
>
>I don't get this.  I must be dumb :-)
>
>Is ISO 14443 a proprietary "twonkie"?
>
>Exactly how do YOU suggest that new HW technology should be established?
>
>A bunch of happy guys with soldering irons and a few thousands bucks
>get togther and make it in open?
>
>To yawn at Phillips, Samsung and Nokia is really dangerous.
>
>The other mentioned RF technologies have not yet become industry
>standards and some of them will fail.  But NFC seemt to have a unique
>"value proposition" that actually does not have a single real competitor.
>
>Anders
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Scott Guthery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "MUSCLE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 21:11
>Subject: RE: [Muscle] NFC - A killer technology
>
>
>Yep, just like BlueTooth, Zigbee, X-10, HomeRF and blah, blah, blah.
>
>Given any k companies from a set of N in an industry, they will form a
>forum to declare their proprietary twonkies to be the industry standard.
>
>Yawn.
>
>Cheers, Scott
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Anders Rundgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 2:50 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [Muscle] NFC - A killer technology
>
>http://www.nfc-forum.org
>
>Finally, a technology that is produced by major companies that really
>solves not just a single problem but a huge number of completely
>different problems, ranging from WLAN access, calendar synchronization,
>to card reader "emulation".
>
>Only a universal technology like this is likely to become a truly
>standard item in personal computers.
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