I would probably rephrase saying that ISO 7816 does not deliver 
interoperability. I hardly understand what was the idea from one side to go 
deeply up to particular bits in particular commands, but from other side to 
leave support for virtually everything to the vendor decision.

So, actually, I have 2 doubts regarding to interoperability when it is spoken 
about PKCS#15.
1. Since underlying cards are not inter-operable (for instance, some of them 
support record files and others do not), it is impossible to write 
implementation that will work with any card.
2. PKCS#15 still leaves many things to decision of implementation (whether to 
use record files even when they are supported, whether to keep multiple objects 
in single file or not etc.). Therefore it is not obvious whether different 
implementations will be interoperable. It would be probably worth to add some 
rules, such as: 
- compliant implementation should be able to read ANY of allowed options etc.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:muscle-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Guthery
> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 2:33 PM
> To: MUSCLE; MUSCLE
> Subject: RE: [Muscle] Some questions about PKCS#15
> 
> The standards deliver interoperabilty.  It is ignorning the standards that
> doesn't.
> 
> The GSM SIM is based on enforced smart card standards and shows a very
> high level
> of interoperabilty ... and profitability, I might add. Without the SIM
> most card companies
> would have gone bust years ago.
> 
> Europeans employ the canard about ISO/IEC 7816 being unbuildable to create
> a new
> European smart card standard about every six months (FINAID, CEPS, eSign,
> eID, ITSO,
> etc.) and none of these have proven any more interoperable that ISO/IEC
> 7816 so it can't
> be the standards. Maybe it has to do with compliance testing and
> enforcement?
> 
> IMHO, as always.
> 
> Cheers, Scott
> 
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: Nils Larsch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       Sent: Wed 2/9/2005 5:53 AM
>       To: MUSCLE
>       Cc:
>       Subject: Re: [Muscle] Some questions about PKCS#15
> 
> 
> 
>       Peter Tomlinson wrote:
>       ...
>       > Sadly, in the smart card world the standards do not deliver
>       > interoperability, but instead enable suppliers to compete in the
> market
>       > for closed schemes.
> 
>       well closed schemes are more profitable, you can sell the smartcards
>       _and_ the software necessary to use them ...
> 
>       Nils
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