Shawn Willden wrote:



That leads to either requiring the user to enter their PIN many, many times, or to implementing some mechanism to cache the PIN

Not if the reader has a number pad to enter the PIN, which is were I think
most security people would like to get to, so that they and the user knows
the PIN has not been stolen.



        Shawn
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