Am Freitag 25 März 2011, um 11:00:01 schrieb Sébastien Lorquet:
> You're talking about not initialized cards. First, it's near impossible to
> find cards in this state, so the doc would be useless, and second, the
> commands available in these modes are generally secret and not even
> available with NDAs outside the manufacturer. In these initialization
> states, cards are not javacards yet, they are totally proprietary objects,
> as you might already know.

Hu? I thought at least every card personalisation company gets those from NXP
and can initialize them in any way their customer wants. 

> Aditionnaly, please avoid talking about "JCOP" when referring to Java Card,
> JCOP is a (not so good for all applications) NXP product, and fortunately,
> there are bunch of other manufacturers and cards, such as the Oberthur
> Cosmo, the Gemalto GXP/GCX and some others at G&D, for example.

And is any such card sold in a state where you can influence the basic 
settings such as atr or real-uid vs. random uid etc? And sold in quantities
like one, two or three cards (for testing)? At reasonable prices?

Regards, Andreas

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