Er, minor correction, the effect I was talking about on the tune (where the echo is more part of the sound than perceived as a repeat) is the bass and the textural chordal change thing most easily heard in the sparse section starting at 1:37; my buddy added all the mallet things with echo (still cool, just differentiating what in my mind are two completely different uses of echo).
> On Jul 20, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Nigel Redmon <earle...@earlevel.com> wrote: > > Being a long-time fan of delays (and author of Echo farm PT plug-in and DL4 > delay modeler stompbox), starting with tape delay (first a Univox tape delay, > graduated to Roland Space Echo (the space echo emulation in Echo Farm is > based on my aged RE-101)…when the digital first came in, it was neat at > first, but exact (near exact) delay is so boring after a bit, and your > realize that the rapid drop-off of frequencies in analog delays is a feature, > not a fault, and certainly the pitch consistency of tape echoes. My old prog > band recorded an album in 1979, and the engineer/producer wanted to use his > shiny new MXR rack delay. I completely regret not demand that we use the > space echo—my modular synth sounded so tiny. > > Anyway, I was having a conversation with my old bandmate some time back, over > the phone; he’s a recording engineer producer theses days, and he mentioned > something about delays, saying that he never quite latched onto their use > (the way I had). I mentioned a fun way to use them that I had always liked (I > guess similar to the Alan Parson’s I Robot), then after getting off the call > whipped up some simple changes to show him what I meant. Being the guy he is, > he couldn’t help but add drums and finish it out. I made a little video for > it (he added the echoey sparse vibraphone/marimba melodic part, not really > what I’m talking about; I’m referring to the baseline and the textural > chordal change parts, also a mallet-ish sound by constant, where the echo is > integral to the sound): > > https://youtu.be/BsNchxCglVk > > > >> On Jul 20, 2015, at 9:43 AM, Theo Verelst <theo...@theover.org> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> No theoretical dumbfounding or deep searching incantations from me this >> Monday, but just something I've through about and that somehow has since >> long been a part of music and analog and digital productions. >> >> I recall when I was doing some computer audio experiments say in the early >> 80s that there was this tantalizing effect that outside of special tape >> based machines hadn't really existed as an effect for using with random >> audio sources: the digital delay. I recall I was happy when I'd used (low >> fidelity) AD and DA converters and a early home computer with 64 kilobytes >> of memory to achieve an echo effect. It was fun. For musical purposes, a bit >> later I used various digital effect units that optionally could act as a >> delay line, and with a feedback control, as an echo unit. >> >> It seems however that with time, the charm of the effect wore off. Just like >> nowadays some people occupy themselves with (arguably desirable) reverb >> reduction, it seems that using a delay isn't very cool anymore, doesn't >> necessarily make your audio workstation output prettier waves when playing a >> nice solo, and even it makes samples sound uglier when a digital delay >> effect is used on them, now that everybody with a computer and a sound card >> can do some audio processing, in a way that's a shame. >> >> Some of the early charm must have been that the effect was featured in >> popular music, and wasn't easy enough to get for a hobbyist in the 70s, and >> possibly that the grungy and loose feel of the low bit depth and the jittery >> or modulated AD/DA converter clock signals was only fun while it lasted. >> Maybe instruments aren't designed to sound good with a delay effect either, >> or there's a conflict with audio system's internal processing, and as last >> suggestion, the studio "delay" effect does a little bit more than just >> delaying that makes it so addictive... >> >> T. >> — > > > -- > dupswapdrop -- the music-dsp mailing list and website: > subscription info, FAQ, source code archive, list archive, book reviews, dsp > links > http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/music-dsp > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/music-dsp -- dupswapdrop -- the music-dsp mailing list and website: subscription info, FAQ, source code archive, list archive, book reviews, dsp links http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/music-dsp http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/music-dsp
