My thoughts...
Q1. Which DVDs to add?
A1. All DVD musical rips.
Arguments: it was argued MB was a music database. Music
DVD's are based on music and bands. That in itself seems to be a good reason
to add them. If MB is supposed to be an archive of band's music at least.)
Q2. DVD to title
A2. I don't like this idea.
Arguments: we don't have it in CD, Tape, etc. Why should DVD
be different?
Q3. Classification of the DVD
A3. I personally think it should go off of official release stand. A
performer makes a DVD professionally, it's official.
A fan makes a dvd of a concert, it's a bootleg
A band gives a promo dvd out (yeah right!) then it's promo.
Arguments: If we don't stick to this, then we are left to
wondering which are which and bootleg loses it's value, as does promo and
official in my opinion.
That's my stance on the DVD thing, and arguments. Trying to be concise to
avoid confusion.
Beth aka Nyght
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Subject: Re: [mb-style] WTF DVD? (was: Veto - DVD in album titles)
On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 23:37:06 +0200, Orion wrote:
> Since I have no idea how we would go about doing informal elections over
> a mailing list I'm going to present my analysis, which is from the pro
> DVD side. Take it as either a draft summary or a lengthy manifesto to
> throw my name into the election.
>
> First, though, you might want to be clearer - as Nikki already replied,
> there were multiple issues under discussion and your message was unclear
> as to which you were were referring. As I saw there were three main
> issues:
> 1. Do we add DVDs at all and which types? Live DVDs? DVD singles? DVD
> Video collections? Musicals? Mixed content ones (half musical/half live
> concert or half concert/half variety)?
> 2. If we add DVDs, do we add (DVD) or similar to their title?
> 3. If we add DVDs, how do we classify them? (Bootleg/Official/Other)
...
>
> I realize this isn't directly following the request to succinctly state
> each sides given argument. Given my view that there are at least 12+
> sides possible depending on what someone answers to each of the three
> questions it was impossible to do so. This is the best summary of it I
> could give from a generally positive viewpoint about adding DVDs.
Thank you very much for this clarification. When the debate was running, I
had not understood, why it got so messy and drifted towards bootlegs. Now
you got it sorted pretty well.
I think we should stick to your three questions and tackle them one after
the other.
Which DVDs to add? How to format the title? How to classify the album
attributes?
It might very well be that some points of the debate rise again, but at
least with some more structure [Don the pedagogue says: this is how
learning happens: Shake it, reorder it, shake it again, and let it fall
into place :-) ].
I am not sure whether the third one needs an oficial ruling by Robert
right now. If we get a decision on the first two, this might be well
enough for the tinme being. People will start to structure DVDs in the db,
this will shake things up again, and maybe the answer to the last question
will fall into place in a month or so.
DonRedman
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