* On 29 Jan 2015, Conor Cook wrote: 
> Dear David,
> 
> Thank you.  I did attempt to rebuild from the source, although I am
> having trouble with the links at the mutt.org website.  Neither of the
> mutt-1.x.tar.gz links will load, and at sourceforge I can only find
> the dev or 1.4.2.2i versions.  I tried to build both the dev version

Hmm, it looks like ftp.mutt.org is down.  Steve, is that your turf?

Conor, your best bet is this:
https://bitbucket.org/mutt/mutt/downloads/mutt-1.5.23.tar.gz

The 1.4 releases are terribly old (and what to do about versions is
a current topic of discussion for us).  You should use 1.5's latest
release; even though it's badged "development" it's generally quite
stable and far more featureful than 1.4.  In particular the IMAP support
in 1.4 is much weaker than 1.5's.

With your old copy of mutt, run "mutt -v".  This should tell you
something about how your old copy was compiled, which may be useful
in deciding how to configure the source tree.  Recent versions of
mutt have a "Configure options:" line that gives the exact arguments
to ./configure that were used during the build.  You can just add
"--enable-imap --enable-pop" to that to configure a new source tree the
same way, but with IMAP and POP support.

I noticed you said you'd tried the dev version, so maybe all this is
redundant.  But when you're at the computer, copy your configure/compile
log on pastebin.com and post the link here.  Someone may be able to
help.


> Basic question, is there any reason for a novice computer-er like me
> to use mutt beyond the novelty of emailing in Terminal, or am I in
> over my head with mail servers and the like?

This is a good question, really.  I can't answer it but I can tell you
how I and others answer it for ourselves.

Mutt diehards usually find that mutt gives us the control we want
to manage mail more effectively and efficiently than most or any
graphical app allows.  Not everyone feels this way, and there are dozens
of reasons that we individually prefer mutt.  I don't think that a
text-mode mailer is particularly something to aspire to unless you have
specific needs that are unmet by your current mail tools.  In that case,
mutt can give you a lot of flexibility in how you address the issue.

I've been using mutt daily for.. I guess about 18 years now.  I lead
an email-centric life, so it's pretty important to me that I be able
to handle email painlessly.  Before mutt I was routinely frustrated by
my mail applications, and always looking for some other way.  Mutt is
imperfect, but the number of times in those 18 years that I've been
genuinely upset by something relating to mail handling is low -- less
than once per year, I'd guess.  And when I do have a problem: (a)
there's a very helpful community willing to share or create solutions,
and (b) as a programmer, I can often solve it by improving the software
for everyone.  This kind of support is really hard to get with desktop
mail apps -- but fundamentally, if you're happy with what you have,
don't fight it. :)

It also presents an enormus learning opportunity, if you think that
knowledge of mail service is potentially valuable.


> Thank you all for your hard work keeping this sort of project going.
> I follow other open source communities, as well, and the work that all
> of you do is both amazing and exciting!

Thanks!

-- 
David Champion • [email protected]

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