I have posted my .log file (I think) to pastebin - here: http://pastebin.com/LkmVx7cb
My mutt -v does not list the "Configure Options," so I went through and tried to corroborate the list of "USE-…" and "HAVE_…" options, but still the error: > chgrp: you are not a member of group mail > Can't fix mutt_dotlock's permissions! This is required to lock mailboxes in > the mail spool directory. > make[4]: *** [install-exec-hook] Error 1 > make[3]: *** [install-exec-am] Error 2 > make[2]: *** [install-am] Error 2 > make[1]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 > make: *** [install] Error 2 Thanks for the thoughts on why to use mutt. I have not been conscious of how my email program is failing to serve me properly, though I imagine there are frustrations I am accustomed to. If I can get mutt to work, I will perhaps find out. Should I have been sending these emails to a non-dev user group? ~Conor Cook > On Jan 29, 2015, at 10:48 AM, David Champion <[email protected]> wrote: > > * On 29 Jan 2015, Conor Cook wrote: >> Dear David, >> >> Thank you. I did attempt to rebuild from the source, although I am >> having trouble with the links at the mutt.org website. Neither of the >> mutt-1.x.tar.gz links will load, and at sourceforge I can only find >> the dev or 1.4.2.2i versions. I tried to build both the dev version > > Hmm, it looks like ftp.mutt.org is down. Steve, is that your turf? > > Conor, your best bet is this: > https://bitbucket.org/mutt/mutt/downloads/mutt-1.5.23.tar.gz > > The 1.4 releases are terribly old (and what to do about versions is > a current topic of discussion for us). You should use 1.5's latest > release; even though it's badged "development" it's generally quite > stable and far more featureful than 1.4. In particular the IMAP support > in 1.4 is much weaker than 1.5's. > > With your old copy of mutt, run "mutt -v". This should tell you > something about how your old copy was compiled, which may be useful > in deciding how to configure the source tree. Recent versions of > mutt have a "Configure options:" line that gives the exact arguments > to ./configure that were used during the build. You can just add > "--enable-imap --enable-pop" to that to configure a new source tree the > same way, but with IMAP and POP support. > > I noticed you said you'd tried the dev version, so maybe all this is > redundant. But when you're at the computer, copy your configure/compile > log on pastebin.com and post the link here. Someone may be able to > help. > > >> Basic question, is there any reason for a novice computer-er like me >> to use mutt beyond the novelty of emailing in Terminal, or am I in >> over my head with mail servers and the like? > > This is a good question, really. I can't answer it but I can tell you > how I and others answer it for ourselves. > > Mutt diehards usually find that mutt gives us the control we want > to manage mail more effectively and efficiently than most or any > graphical app allows. Not everyone feels this way, and there are dozens > of reasons that we individually prefer mutt. I don't think that a > text-mode mailer is particularly something to aspire to unless you have > specific needs that are unmet by your current mail tools. In that case, > mutt can give you a lot of flexibility in how you address the issue. > > I've been using mutt daily for.. I guess about 18 years now. I lead > an email-centric life, so it's pretty important to me that I be able > to handle email painlessly. Before mutt I was routinely frustrated by > my mail applications, and always looking for some other way. Mutt is > imperfect, but the number of times in those 18 years that I've been > genuinely upset by something relating to mail handling is low -- less > than once per year, I'd guess. And when I do have a problem: (a) > there's a very helpful community willing to share or create solutions, > and (b) as a programmer, I can often solve it by improving the software > for everyone. This kind of support is really hard to get with desktop > mail apps -- but fundamentally, if you're happy with what you have, > don't fight it. :) > > It also presents an enormus learning opportunity, if you think that > knowledge of mail service is potentially valuable. > > >> Thank you all for your hard work keeping this sort of project going. >> I follow other open source communities, as well, and the work that all >> of you do is both amazing and exciting! > > Thanks! > > -- > David Champion • [email protected]
