Hello,

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:47:53AM -0700, jeremy
bentham wrote:
> I can't send mail from my local machine, using
> my isp's smtp server.
> 
> I can do it just fine from pine, providing I
> have started an imap session on one of my isp's
> machines. (I'm doing this message in pine).

This looks strange. Is this a kind of POP/IMAP
before SMTP auth? If an IMAP connection from pine
to an ISP server isn't active, you are unable to
send from pine too?

Probably, mutt closes IMAP before connecting by
SMTP?

> But, depending on what port I specify in
> smtp_url, I can either get an instant
> "connection refused", or, after about ten
> minutes, "gnutls_handshake: A TLS packet with
> unexpected length was received."

How does pine do it? By plaintext SMTP? TLS? SSL?
Which port does it use? Probably you can try
tcpdump to see what pine is doing and try to
replicate it with mutt.

I'm sure you can easily hit the same ports and the
same plain/TLS/SSL settings with .muttrc, but WRT
IMAP-before-SMTP I'm not that sure.

-- 
With best regards,
xrgtn

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