On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 09:53:30PM -0700, Tom Fowle wrote:
> Eliana and all,
> You are correct I'd missed the 'My_server" in the smtp url, but that
> didn't
> fix the basic problem.

I have not automated sending with mutt, I do it by invoking msmtp separately, 
and also do not use IMAP, but the basics of debugging I think would include 
making sure you have enabled IMAP and sending the same way on both ends. 

> I've tried every combination of imap smtp sending setups people have
> reccommended and nothing works.
> I get either "connection refused" or an apparrent send with no errors
> wherein the message just doesn't arrive.

I do not understand the difference between SSL and SASL but I know that I had 
to declare the correct location of my SSL certificates file(s) in my msmtprc 
for things to work with my setup.  Possibly you did not reinstall the 
certificate file, or the name or location or permissions changed with the 
upgrade.

So make sure you have checked that in the appropriate rc file.  Again, I do not 
send directly with mutt, so I declared that in my msmtprc file.

> Should I start a trace or some such of a sending attempt, and if so how
> do I
> go about that?

starting mutt with strace would show system calls, but I am not sure if it 
would show you what you need to know.  The man page for my Mutt says that for 
debugging, you can start it with a -d option but only if you compiled in that 
option, did you?

> Also, is it necessary when upgrading mutt to start with a new copy of
> the
> current muttrc file and modify that? or will .rc files that work with a
> slightly older version work with the latest stable release?

The same as with any application, it really depends on whether approved 
syntaxes and file locations have changed.  

eliana

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