eliana and all;
Have tried all the .muttrc configs suggested with same results:
find below .muttdebug1 file, no help.
mutt -v
shows everything wanted to be in the compile.
this is a precompiled debian package. sendmail and so on seem to be
where
needed.
I think I'm going to go get a fresh new .muttrc and re-configure it as
best
i can, possibly with all my thrashing, I've set some contradictory
things or
the like.
here's the debug file
thanks especially eliana, Peter and Paul
[2014-08-21 19:24:27] Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) debugging at level 1
[2014-08-21 19:24:27] Reading imaps://mail.messagingengine.com/...
[2014-08-21 19:24:27] Looking up mail.messagingengine.com...
[2014-08-21 19:24:27] Connecting to mail.messagingengine.com...
[2014-08-21 19:24:29] SSL/TLS connection using TLS1.2
(DHE-RSA/AES-256-CBC/SHA256)
[2014-08-21 19:24:30] Authenticating (DIGEST-MD5)...
[2014-08-21 19:24:30] Logging in...
[2014-08-21 19:24:30] Selecting INBOX...
[2014-08-21 19:24:30] Unknown right: n
[2014-08-21 19:24:30] Fetching message headers... 0/12 (0%)
[2014-08-21 19:24:31] Fetching message headers... 10/12 (83%)
[2014-08-21 19:24:31] Sorting mailbox...
[2014-08-21 19:24:48] Fetching message...
[2014-08-21 19:24:48] Fetching message... 0K/8.4K (0%)
[2014-08-21 19:24:48] Fetching message... 0K/8.4K (0%)
[2014-08-21 19:24:48] WEED is Set
[2014-08-21 19:25:23] Include message in reply? ([yes]/no): 
[2014-08-21 19:25:25] Including quoted message...
[2014-08-21 19:29:20] Sending message...
[2014-08-21 19:29:20] Mail sent.
[2014-08-21 19:29:20] mutt_free_body: unlinking
/tmp/mutt-qlf-1000-3519-1811076840113830389.
[2014-08-21 19:29:41] 12 kept, 0 deleted.
[2014-08-21 19:29:41] Closing connection to mail.messagingengine.com...

  Tom Fowle
  [email protected]


On Thu, Aug 21, 2014, at 01:34 AM, Eliana wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 09:53:30PM -0700, Tom Fowle wrote:
> > Eliana and all,
> > You are correct I'd missed the 'My_server" in the smtp url, but that
> > didn't
> > fix the basic problem.
> 
> I have not automated sending with mutt, I do it by invoking msmtp
> separately, and also do not use IMAP, but the basics of debugging I think
> would include making sure you have enabled IMAP and sending the same way
> on both ends. 
> 
> > I've tried every combination of imap smtp sending setups people have
> > reccommended and nothing works.
> > I get either "connection refused" or an apparrent send with no errors
> > wherein the message just doesn't arrive.
> 
> I do not understand the difference between SSL and SASL but I know that I
> had to declare the correct location of my SSL certificates file(s) in my
> msmtprc for things to work with my setup.  Possibly you did not reinstall
> the certificate file, or the name or location or permissions changed with
> the upgrade.
> 
> So make sure you have checked that in the appropriate rc file.  Again, I
> do not send directly with mutt, so I declared that in my msmtprc file.
> 
> > Should I start a trace or some such of a sending attempt, and if so how
> > do I
> > go about that?
> 
> starting mutt with strace would show system calls, but I am not sure if
> it would show you what you need to know.  The man page for my Mutt says
> that for debugging, you can start it with a -d option but only if you
> compiled in that option, did you?
> 
> > Also, is it necessary when upgrading mutt to start with a new copy of
> > the
> > current muttrc file and modify that? or will .rc files that work with a
> > slightly older version work with the latest stable release?
> 
> The same as with any application, it really depends on whether approved
> syntaxes and file locations have changed.  
> 
> eliana

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