Thanks everyone for the log4j hints. i have working now. i am used to initilizing the logging from a standalone application (and applet) so the server side config was slightly confusing.
On to other problems: JSTL (forEach) I have the JSTL forEach (from core) and sql tags working on a standalone (no beans) basis in the webcms project. the jsp is querying the local postgres database for row data from base_content. if it is helpfull I will include my zip'd webapp (minus the jars) to the mailing list( or if someone wants they can send me their webapp and I can see if it will connect to my database). i will also look back at the errors to see i can help from that perspective. STRUTS-MENU I have this war now working also with resin. The web.xml file of the app has some tag that resin doesn't like, i.e everything after the taglib declarations. Also note that I could only get the menu stuff to work in my app when it was run under the root doc. dave s. _______________________________________________ MVC-Programmers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.basebeans.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/mvc-programmers