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From: "stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Dave Ansell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
<[email protected]>; "MVallevand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Mvpmc-users] Cant play FLAC files


> Hi Dave...
>
>
>>>> On 4/6/07, Dave Ansell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>      I have just updated to 0.3.3 version of mvpmc in the hope I could 
>>>>> play
>>>>> my FLAC audio files.
>>>>>
>>>>>      Unfortunately the mclient says it cannot open the file.
>>>>>      The files play fine on my Slimp3.
>
>>>> FLAC support is only currently available in the native Filesystem mode
>>>> not in mclient.
>>>>
>>>> Martin
>
>>> Thank Martin.
>>> Will it come in a future release?
>>> Or is some other lossless format possible?
>
>> I understand FLAC is possible on the slimdevices.com hardware clients. In 
>> order to implement it in mvpmc it has to be possible for the hardware to 
>> deal with it and I need to understand how the slimserver software 
>> communicates with the client as to which format is being streamed.
>>
>> Martin, perhaps you have already said, but does mvpmc understand FLAC? 
>> That is, can you play such files from the mvpmc file browser now?
>>
>> As far as how it is done between slimserver and a slimdevices.com 
>> client...  I am hoping there is a clear cut method that only works on 
>> FLAC files.  That is, we might be in trouble if FLAC transmission is base 
>> on the revision of the client.  A higher revision might lead the server 
>> to think that mvpmc can do more than it is capable of (for instance 
>> displaying graphics instead of just characters).
>>
>> If you know the answers to these questions that would be a great help.
>>
>> ...thanks
>
> Dave, reading your original posting I realized you said you could not open 
> the FLAC file using mclient.  That's interesting, as slimserver should 
> have been able to handle the transcoding to mp3.  I am wondering if you 
> have the necessary files on your server to do the transcoding (if there 
> are any necessary - I should probably rip to flac and try this). Note, you 
> are probably playing flac nativly on your S3 and therefore do not need any 
> flac to mp3 conversion program on your server (again, if this is how 
> slimserver works).
>
> Anyways, I assume the real push here is to support flac within mclient 
> just like it is supported on your S3.  I have looked into this and, as I 
> feared, it looks like we would have to look like a S2 (aka SB2) before 
> were are even offered a flac file.
>
> Does anyone else know for sure?
>
> Going on, what troubles me is what other features will slimserver assume 
> we can handle at that version level.  I have only found bits and pieces of 
> information regarding this.  Probably because the main push behind 
> slimserver is to support slim devices' clients - which are well defined or 
> at least stable.  So not much discussion goes on about what is and is not 
> supported.  And, as I am not a PERL programmer, looking at slimserver code 
> is a bit difficult.
>
> Options:
> 1) Someone could tell me what to expect from slimserver if I told it I was 
> an SB2.
> 2) Someone could develop a slimserver patch to support the "oddities" of 
> mclient (i.e. send flac to a version 1.0 client).
>
> ...thanks
>

Hi,
    Good point!
    I think I disabled mp3 conversion in the server because I wanted to make 
sure that I got the best quality streaming (ie native FLAC) from the 
Squeezebox.
    I'm not sure what choices Slimserver makes and if it knows what formats 
a player will support, and does it choose on the basis of best quality or 
lowest bandwidth?  That is why I configured the server to stream FLAC files 
only in FLAC format.
    If it can be done, then I native FLAC support the same as the Squeezebox 
would be great!

cheers,
Dave







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