>>>>>> On 4/6/07, Dave Ansell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>      I have just updated to 0.3.3 version of mvpmc in the hope I 
>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>> play
>>>>>>> my FLAC audio files.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      Unfortunately the mclient says it cannot open the file.
>>>>>>>      The files play fine on my Slimp3.
>>>>>> FLAC support is only currently available in the native Filesystem 
>>>>>> mode
>>>>>> not in mclient.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Martin
>>>>> Thank Martin.
>>>>> Will it come in a future release?
>>>>> Or is some other lossless format possible?
>>>> I understand FLAC is possible on the slimdevices.com hardware clients. 
>>>> In
>>>> order to implement it in mvpmc it has to be possible for the hardware 
>>>> to
>>>> deal with it and I need to understand how the slimserver software
>>>> communicates with the client as to which format is being streamed.
>>>>
>>>> Martin, perhaps you have already said, but does mvpmc understand FLAC?
>>>> That is, can you play such files from the mvpmc file browser now?
>>>>
>>>> As far as how it is done between slimserver and a slimdevices.com
>>>> client...  I am hoping there is a clear cut method that only works on
>>>> FLAC files.  That is, we might be in trouble if FLAC transmission is 
>>>> base
>>>> on the revision of the client.  A higher revision might lead the server
>>>> to think that mvpmc can do more than it is capable of (for instance
>>>> displaying graphics instead of just characters).
>>>>
>>>> If you know the answers to these questions that would be a great help.
>>>>
>>>> ...thanks
>>> Dave, reading your original posting I realized you said you could not 
>>> open
>>> the FLAC file using mclient.  That's interesting, as slimserver should
>>> have been able to handle the transcoding to mp3.  I am wondering if you
>>> have the necessary files on your server to do the transcoding (if there
>>> are any necessary - I should probably rip to flac and try this). Note, 
>>> you
>>> are probably playing flac nativly on your S3 and therefore do not need 
>>> any
>>> flac to mp3 conversion program on your server (again, if this is how
>>> slimserver works).
>>>
>>> Anyways, I assume the real push here is to support flac within mclient
>>> just like it is supported on your S3.  I have looked into this and, as I
>>> feared, it looks like we would have to look like a S2 (aka SB2) before
>>> were are even offered a flac file.
>>>
>>> Does anyone else know for sure?
>>>
>>> Going on, what troubles me is what other features will slimserver assume
>>> we can handle at that version level.  I have only found bits and pieces 
>>> of
>>> information regarding this.  Probably because the main push behind
>>> slimserver is to support slim devices' clients - which are well defined 
>>> or
>>> at least stable.  So not much discussion goes on about what is and is 
>>> not
>>> supported.  And, as I am not a PERL programmer, looking at slimserver 
>>> code
>>> is a bit difficult.
>>>
>>> Options:
>>> 1) Someone could tell me what to expect from slimserver if I told it I 
>>> was
>>> an SB2.
>>> 2) Someone could develop a slimserver patch to support the "oddities" of
>>> mclient (i.e. send flac to a version 1.0 client).
>>>
>>> ...thanks
>>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>     Good point!
>>     I think I disabled mp3 conversion in the server because I wanted to 
>> make
>> sure that I got the best quality streaming (ie native FLAC) from the
>> Squeezebox.
>>     I'm not sure what choices Slimserver makes and if it knows what 
>> formats
>> a player will support, and does it choose on the basis of best quality or
>> lowest bandwidth?  That is why I configured the server to stream FLAC 
>> files
>> only in FLAC format.
>>     If it can be done, then I native FLAC support the same as the 
>> Squeezebox
>> would be great!
>>
>> cheers,
>> Dave
>>
>
> After reading a number of slimdevices threads, I am convinced the
> default slimserver settings are what you want.  The only reason given to
> change them is to manage limited bandwidth problems between the server
> and the client.  So, in the end, slimserver should know the capabilities
> of each client and convert accordingly.  It should prefer using flac on
> clients capable of decoding the format.
>
> Oh, and rest assured you are not the only person fiddling with the
> slimserver control to ensure flac is being used. The issue (and
> confusion) has popped up several times on the slimserver mail lists.
>
> -R
>
>
>
>


Many thanks Rick.
  I will go back to default then.
cheers,
Dave


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