Hi, Michael G.

 

I’m going to try to answer your question about how you can show your next
actions and also actions that have a due date, together in the to-do list.

 

I’m assuming that you are continuing to use “complete subtasks in order” to
single out your next task in each project. This thread has suggested several
other ways to do that, and my suggestion below would have to be revised to
match whatever method you pick. This is not as hard as it looks, I am just
giving a lot of detail in case newbie wants to try this but does not know
his or her way around MLO yet.

 

1.       Go to the to-do tab

2.       Click “manage views” near the bottom left. If you don’t see that,
click “Filter >>” near the top left.

3.       In the “manage to-do views” popup, click “new” to create a new
to-do view.

4.       Type in a name for your new view.

5.       If the “manage” popup is still showing, click “close”

6.       You are back to the to-do tab. In the upper left, just below and to
the right of “Filter <<” it says “view:” followed by a view name. It should
be your new view. If not, click the view name and select your view from the
dropdown.

7.       Just below “Filter <<” is a word with a down-arrow after it. If you
hover the mouse pointer over this word, the tooltip says “Action Filter”.
Click it, and select “Available” which will prevent completed tasks from
displaying but allow future tasks to display.

8.       Further down, under “Advanced” check the box before “Add Advanced”

9.       Click the next button, called “Setup,” to get the Advanced
Filtering popup.

10.   Click “Add Rule”

11.   Click the first box and select “Active Action”

12.   Click the second box and select “is true” – this will include any task
that is ready for execution, which in your projects is the next incomplete
task.

13.   Click the third box and select “OR”

14.   Click the big blue plus right after the “OR” – tooltip says Add Rule.

15.   On the next line, click the first box and select “DueDateTime”

16.   Click the second box and select “exists” (near the bottom) – this
includes, in addition to the active tasks, any uncompleted task that has a
due date.

17.   Click “OK”

18.   You should be seeing your to-do list with active and dated tasks now.
The parameters for displaying this list have not been saved yet, click “save
settings” in the lower left. Assuming that the report name is still
acceptable, click “ok” to go back to the report

 

Now that you have seen the inner workings of the filter setup, you can
explore the other settings and values to create reports that show you
exactly what you want to see.

 

It may be that one of the setups you dream up is a close match for one of
the predefined views on the Android. If not, you will only be able to use
these views on Windows. You cannot define a view on Windows and copy it to
the phone, at this point.

-Dwight

 

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lisa Stroyan
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 10:25 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MLO] Re: Skiping next task

 

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Michael G. <[email protected]> wrote:

When you say "Hide in todo", under the General section I see "Hide the
branch in To-Do". I assume this is the same and it does exactly what I
wanted. 

Click 

Yes, that's right. It's an inherited attribute of a task. 

 

I'm using the PC and Android version but on the PC I don't see anything
about using Next Actions. ...What am I missing? I'm running the latest
version 3.6.1. This isn't a big deal as it sounds like it isn't supported in
Android.

 

Ah. "Next action" isn't a property of a task, but a "state" or "concept"
that is supported in the Todo tab filters. Let me go on a tangent for a
moment...So you have this tree of tasks -- the tree in the Outline. Those
are what I consider the physical locations of the tasks. Likewise, each task
has a set of properties / attributes.

 

Then the Todo tab gives you ways of viewing (slicing and dicing) your tasks
without moving the task in the tree or changing the attributes. Basically
database queries, many predefined, which you can also edit and refine to
your processes (fully on the desktop, less so on Android).   

 

Concepts such as Active, Next Action, Computed-Score, look at attributes of
the task and the tasks around them to see if they fit a certain set of
criteria that the "view" has defined.  So the user can say something, "Show
me all my tasks due in the next seven days that I can work on right now
except Personal tasks"

 

The Next Action control for the current View (ie, filter) is located in the
top left of the Todo tab on Windows, (You may have to expand "Filter>>").
Next Actions is a concept that means the next actionable item in each
Project. By changing your Action Filter to "Next Actions" you will see only
the first task in each Project. I don't use it so there may be other
intricacies I don' t know about. 

 

A nice feature would be to have the task lisk change the to-do color from
green to something else if a task in the folder was skipped so you're
reminded to go back and check.

 

What do you mean by "skipped", as in, how would MLO know you had skipped it?
MLO doesn't know if you are arranging your tasks in the order that you want
to do them, or by some other criteria.  Green means "Active".  I guess I
would argue that the green *is* your reminder; everything green still needs
action.  But you might be able to mess with the formatting rules to get what
you want. 

 

My suggestion would be to see what filters you can develop. I do almost all
of my "execution" of tasks from a todo view. I see outline more as planning
and organizing, not seeing what I should work on.

 

Lisa

 

 

Michael G.



On Sunday, July 15, 2012 9:51:04 AM UTC-4, Lisa S wrote:

One way to skip a task, is to use "Hide-in-todo". Then the next task will
become active. However, the "hide-in-todo" task never will, so you really
are completely skipping it, not putting it off for later.

 

If you are working only on the PC, you might consider another strategy,
which is, don't use "complete in order" but then, in your views, use "Next
Actions" in your actions filters. Next-Actions are the first in their folder
that are active. That way, you can easily go back and forth between Next
Actions and Active Actions views.

 

Of course, this may present problems if you want most of your tasks to show
everything but only certain projects to show next actions. You would need to
use advanced filtering for this. 

 

(I thought there was an advanced criteria "NextAction is true/false" -- is
my nonstandard version correct that this doesn't exist?)

Lisa

 

On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 1:04 AM, robisme <[email protected]> wrote:

you shoul add a dependencie to the less important task. 

I mean : make the less important task waiting for the most important to be
completed.


Le jeudi 12 juillet 2012 04:08:02 UTC+2, Michael G. a écrit :

Hi,

I have templates set up for my projects and for the projects, I have
"Complete subtasks in order" checked. This works fine but frequently I have
"less important" tasks I have to skip and would like to show something that
I want to work on next in the to-do list. I know I can move tasks up an down
the list, but I like to keep them in order as I use folders to categorize
tasks. Any suggestions on skipping a task or forcing another task to the the
next action I work on?

 

One other question, if I assign a due date to a task, is there any way to
have this show in the to-do list even if it isn't the next task to be
completed? Thanks.

 

Regards-Michael G. 

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